-- Here is what the JW leaders are warning you-- The two horned beast ( eagle-lion ) Go into the middle east region after the hidden gold ( oil ) Then the prophecy of Egypt-Libya-Then they hand over their power for a short time to the 7 headed wild beast with 10 horns to do away with religions- thats Babylon the great-The merchants stand at a distance and mourn her, why- because her shelves are full ( no more religious holidays ) that is the start of the tribulation. Then when they are saying peace and security sudden destruction will be upon them. But there will be 3 inspired expressions ( all lies ) that the world will believe except for Gods true people- And it teaches this- Satan will lead every kingdom ( govt,armies,supporters) against God at Harmageddon. And i am telling you that for the manmade word-patriotism, all of you will be on the losing side-In Daniel God says he will crush every kingdom of the earth. And in Daniel God gave every world power that was a mark of a beast-The two greek powers that were were described like this--the big horn came out of the little horn. So when we see horn and beast mentioned in revelations its speaking about Govts-World power. So a 7 headed beast-is a place where govts gather-the united nations-a two horned beast is two govts working together-the final world power. it says one cannot buy or sell ( sanctions ) unless he recieves the mark of the beast ( democracy ) the mark on the hand signifies physical support-the forehead-mental support. Believe it or not. Its happening under your noses, because your teachers dont have a clue- Just as God said it would be-He compared these last days to Noahs day saying they would be marrying etc until that day arrives, Why-Because the teachers didnt have a clue.
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How do JW's know that the GB is getting closer to the truth?
by Mad Dawg intheir claim, to cover up changed teachings, is that they are always getting closer to the truth.
how do we know that the gb is closer now than they were 50 or a hundred years ago?
how do we know that the gb hasn't been drifting away for the last 50 years?.
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How do JW's know that the GB is getting closer to the truth?
by Mad Dawg intheir claim, to cover up changed teachings, is that they are always getting closer to the truth.
how do we know that the gb is closer now than they were 50 or a hundred years ago?
how do we know that the gb hasn't been drifting away for the last 50 years?.
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onthewayout-- I will take my chances at judgement 7 days a week with a religion that made mistakes and corrected them, i would never go to judgement with disunified religions that shove the teachings of Jesus aside and kill one another for a man made word patriotism, Millions upon millions slaughtered, not to mention all of the family lines cut off as well. Not to mention the teachers failing to warn them about the false god worship practices the world added to their holy days. We shall see who satan owns.
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How do JW's know that the GB is getting closer to the truth?
by Mad Dawg intheir claim, to cover up changed teachings, is that they are always getting closer to the truth.
how do we know that the gb is closer now than they were 50 or a hundred years ago?
how do we know that the gb hasn't been drifting away for the last 50 years?.
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Flipper-- Mr Russell did make some errors in the beginning,But how easy is it for an imperfect man to undo 1750 years of lies overnight? How is it he knew years before that in the fall of 1914 peace would be taken away from the earth? In Peters book after Jesus died satan entered and had certain teachers teaching lies that Peter had to correct-Why did satan keep attacking the israelites to fall out of Gods grace over and over until finally they had Gods son killed? Here is why-satan attacks Gods religion-He owns every other one he infiltrated every other one centuries ago and the false teachings are never corrected- Peter showed what would occur in Gods true religion-corrections would be made in front of the hearts of the ridiculers. And One cannot be possibly right unless corrections of the mistakes are made-and in the end Jesus will prove to be with the ones who made the corrections.
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Being Under Cult Mind Control is a Psychological Disorder - Steve Hassan
by flipper inthought perhaps some newer members who haven't heard some of hassan's thoughts on mind control might relate to this from their own experiences in jehovah's witnesses .
even though mind control is initiated by the cult involved in controlling it's members - hassan points out - it actually becomes a psychological disorder which can entrap the victim himself or herself - all the while - as they are being controlled by the leaders of cults.. on page 55 of hassan's book " releasing the bonds - empowering people to think for themselves " it states what happens in a destructive cult , " in a destructive cult, the locus of control shifts to the group or it's leader .
the new recruit abdicates his ability to make decisions.
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Consider this-- Adam and Eve, even though given free will were controlled by God, It was God who told them how they should live- So by exercising her free will against what God had told her was the best path-We now have this world-A world of confusion. Eve was Perfect-God spoke directly to Adam, yet he too exercised his free will as well- Obviously without the direction given by God human thoughts on matters are usually wrong, especially now in this imperfect state of being. And if one thinks they can out think satan on matters they better step back and think again. He was there before man was in existence-He has seen it all-He got to Gods elite all the time. So i ask you- how does one think that they can read Gods word better than men who have studied it their whole lives? And if you say the holy spirit will guide you-then i have gotten that answer probably 50 times yet when i ask what is a 7 headed beast with 10 horns-Not one of them has a clue. But the answer is right there in Gods word.
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Is this not an easy question?
by the pharmer ini wanted my jw friend's perspective on something, so i asked them this question:.
if i read a passage of scripture and conclude about it something that opposes the wt's view of the same passage, in your mind who has the truth about that passage (i.e.
who is correct)?
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Here is something for all to consider-- In the ot-the israelites kept falling away from God losing his favor until they corrected their mistakes-in Peters letters we find, satan came right in to the religion after Jesus died, and had teachers teaching lies so that Peter had to correct them--Why??/ Because satan owns all false religions-He attacks Gods true religion and infiltrates lies- So as the examples show from Gods word-The religion smart enough to make corrections of the mistakes in front of the ridiculing hearts of the unbelievers will in the end prove to be the one that Jesus is with. Satan Got to Gods elite- King David-Moses,Solomon-- So to today, he wont give up until he is cast into the abyss.
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Issuing a challenge to Jehvoah's Witnesses everywhere
by Terry innow is the time (to quote an old kingdom song)..... to challenge jw's everywhere who are pointing to the "difficult times hard to deal with" in the news around the world.
and declaring armageddon is absolutely, positively nigh.. for one thing, they always point to something somewhere, don't they?.
and whatever it is---absolutely means time is short.. but, it is the usual nonsense, bullshit, poppycock over-statement, exaggeration and hype.. call them on it this time!.
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Mary-- Only God knows the day and hour- but there are prophecys to keep on the watch for all to see.
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Issuing a challenge to Jehvoah's Witnesses everywhere
by Terry innow is the time (to quote an old kingdom song)..... to challenge jw's everywhere who are pointing to the "difficult times hard to deal with" in the news around the world.
and declaring armageddon is absolutely, positively nigh.. for one thing, they always point to something somewhere, don't they?.
and whatever it is---absolutely means time is short.. but, it is the usual nonsense, bullshit, poppycock over-statement, exaggeration and hype.. call them on it this time!.
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Terry-- Lets see what Gods word showed in prophecy-- The two horned beast ( eagle-lion ) go into the middle east region after the hidden gold ( oil ) Then the prophecy of Egypt-Libya- Then upon the return the fall of Babylon the great ( false religion ) But first they hand over their power for 1 hour ( a short time ) to the 7 headed beast with 10 horns ( united nations ) the one that was( until the end of ww2 ) and wasnt-( done away with after ww2 ) and lives again ) And like a quick pitch into the sea with a millstone around her neck she is destroyed, never to be again.( according to cnn, 9 countries have allready done away with all organized religion )-- The merchants stand at a distance and mourn her,Why??? because their shelves are full- no more religious holidays causes that. That is the start of the tribulation( closing of the door to the ark -persay ) Then while saying peace-security they turn on Gods people-God steps in and Harmageddon begins-sudden destruction of all wickedness on the earth. Unfortunatly for mankind who wouldnt listen- Gods word says this--Satan leads every kingdom ( govt,armies,supporters) against God at Harmageddon. And in Daniel God says he will crush everyone of them. and i will ad this- From our youths up every human on the planet is taught this one man made word-Patriotism- so all who have not entered the ark will follow that man made word to their destruction. Also during the trib-3 inspired expressions will come and all those not in the ark will believe them and be mislead to take their stand in opposition to God for that manmade word. --- You are taught the 2 horned beast is a man, but it isnt- It says one cannot buy or sell ( sanctions ) unless they recieve the mark of the beast ( democracy ) and the mark on the hand signifies physical support-the mark on the head signifies mental support. 666 in the number of man, man gave the title incomplete to this number-3 ruling powers on the earth-govts,false religions- the commercial system-all incomplete in comparison to what Gods kingdom will do for mankind.
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What a STUPID morning on the ministry!
by TimothyT intim here.. ok... so... let me tell you about this morning and the utter stupidity of the brothers!.
just to give you a bit of background info, for those who dont know, i am a gay, 23 year old jw and im seriously heading out of the borg!
i want this now because i dont fit in anymore!
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Timothy t-- Probably the same words Eve uttered when she decided she didnt need Gods direction anymore after satan lied to her and she believed it. Look where it got the world. So where would you turn.
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Translating the NWT in the Shadows
by JuanMiguel innote: the following is not meant to be construed as a recommendation but to demonstrate the sharp contrast between any authentic bible translation and the new world translation.
for those of us who participate and or read the threads on this board, i understand and appreciate that all here have different views on religion, the existence of god, and of the catholic church.
i believe each individuals convictions should be treated with the utmost respect and dignity.
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Consider these facts--- God inspired his name to be put into the bible- nearly 6800 times in the ot-Why???? Because God wants his name there--Wicked men took it out and altered Gods word, So out of Love the JW,s put it back, then are condemned for it by the ones who didnt have enough love for God to put it back=reality= The ones who didnt have enough love for God are the ones who twisted Gods word centuries ago to fit their new found teaching of a trinity God made up in the councils of catholocism. Its fact-in the first council of Nicea-the holy spirit was not being taught as a part of being God-it was added at a different council- Fact-Moses,David,Solomon served a single mono God. You are being lied to and mislead by this trinity teaching. A teaching of satan,satan transforming into an angel of light.satan posing as God like in all false religions.
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Is this not an easy question?
by the pharmer ini wanted my jw friend's perspective on something, so i asked them this question:.
if i read a passage of scripture and conclude about it something that opposes the wt's view of the same passage, in your mind who has the truth about that passage (i.e.
who is correct)?
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The Pharmer-- The JW leaders would be right. I know you will say the holy spirit will teach you- so i ask you a question-please give me your answer from the holy spirit-- What is a 7 headed beast with 10 horns? Or a simpler one who is the two horned beast?