EverSoGrateful
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My son was murdered today
by truman ini have been on this site daily, almost from its beginning, since i left the jws in 2001, but i have been more of a reader than a poster, as you can see from my post count.
i know few here know me, although i know many of you through reading your posts.
maybe it is not right to ask for support, when i generally stay quietly in the background of this forum, but i want only to speak a human misery of the deepest kind.
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No Facebook?
by lavendar inare jws not allowed to join fb?
if so, what is the reason that the wts gives them??
and also if so, what is the real reason??.
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WTBTS Elder & Ministerial Servant Problems
by JW GoneBad ini attended a recent ministerial servant k m school on the east coast and the main school instructor mentioned among other things (part entitled: 'objective of the km school course') that the total number of ministerial servants is seriously less than it should be.
in times past the ratio of m ss to elders was much more than it is today.. in the u.s. apparently the total number of elders is 88,500+ as opposed to m ss 65,000. the numbers show & numbers don't lie: the society is running out of spiritual men.
the instructor stated that this is a new downward trend that has (in so many words) the society worried.. the next speaker (part entitled: 'why we must be spiritual men') added that in his years as a traveling servant the pool of m ss has always been much, much larger than it is today.
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EverSoGrateful
I have a sying & it goes like this:
"sis on you pister, you aint so muckin fuch".... i would love to share that with the WTBTS !
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BOE LTR Dec 26, 2010 "Increased Activity April 2011"....Transcript....
by yknot inin an effort to increase the praise and honor to jehovah and jesus christ at the time of the memorial, the governing body has arranged for a special period of increased activity during april 2011.
you will be pleased to learn that during april 2011, publishers who wish to serve as auxiliary pioneers may indicate on the application whether they will be working toward a 30-hour or 50-hour requirement for the month.
this is a special arrangement for the month of april 2011 only.
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Wow, and to think that I used to strive to aux pio... it was more important to me than my non wittness husband...AND to see the control they have on the Elders to READ this VERY IMPOTENT INFO... gosh, I am surprised they don't tell the brothers what TONE to use & what clothes to wear WHILE reading this valuable info on wasting time!!!!! I am sooo happy that I saw the light... thanks to RANDY... and this site, and now one of my neices has seen the light & has left the ORG!!!!!! It will be tuff for her because her mom & brothers live nearby & they are still in...we are 100's of miles away so we have to keep her positive that she's doing the right thing! She didn't leave GOD... she left a multi billion dollar publishing co...AND she's about ready to give birth to her first baby!!!!!!!!!
I remain " EverSoGrateful " that I am out!
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Comment on Loneliness
by jgnat inone of the great lessons this board gave me is the cruelty of shunning by the jehovah's witnesses.
it is inhuman.
the toll it takes on a person cannot be underestimated.
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EverSoGrateful
I too was lonely after I walked away about 8 years ago. I left a sister & nephew behind in the borg. The very ones that brought me into it. But it didn't take too long to realize that I missed them more than they missed me! Yes.... I soon thought wow.... none of those people even call or stop by.... and then I remembered.... aaaahhhh agapy is it? The love you show for someone who is IN the borg BECAUSE they are IN the BORG! It doesn't matter if they are a wife beater, thief, or molester..... but for the fact that they are IN the borg.... then you shall love them. Well, I am neither of those things... actually, I am quite nice & was very generous to people in the congregation when I could be. I helped out single sisters, bought meals, had the teens over, went skating with them etc.... but NOW all of a sudden they don't call or stop by! Hmmmmm I thought.... and then I started to reach out to the very people that I shunned for all of the years I was in the borg... I helped neighbors, family, old friends.... got to know them and guess what? THEY are my TRUE FRIENDS! It takes awhile to feel that you can get close to people outside of the borg, but trust me... once you get over that hump.... the SKY'S the limit! soooo GO MAKE FRIENDS! AND SMILE!
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Outcast & Rejected
by Drewmeister injust wanted to interduce myself an give an quick synopsis.. i was a happy an healthy(ish) young man back in march 08. i was cornnered by a (didn't know it @ the time) jw who talked to me alot about "the truth" and why the world is like it is.
he is a window cleaner in town, hence i didn't know as he wasn't in his suit.
everything he said made sense to me @ the time, but thinking back i wasn't @ my healthiest or strongest so he got me @ my weakest point.
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EverSoGrateful
Welcome Drewmeister! You are among true friends here, so you can relax & be yourself! Let the healing begin! When I came to this board, I was very much afraid I was doing the wrong thing...... and come to find out, it's been one of my biggest blessings! We've all been where you are, being shunned, cast out as tho you are an empty tin can... not even worth picking up. HA! Boy that's some real Christian LOVE that they show huh? In time you will learn that they are only doing what they've been brainwashed to do... they are like robots. You my friend are Very Lucky that you didn't stay longer! Let me tell you of my experience over the weekend....
I used to be a JW... and I walked away about 6 years ago, and my sis is still in. Soooo.... recently my mom has taken up residence with my husband and I because of illness. Well, we had a garage sale this weekend & as I was putting things away, my sis and her husband pull up...they just came from "the meeting". My sis ran inside to give my mom something... said "Hey" to me as she wisked herself in to see our mom. Her husband "a wittness" stayed sitting IN THE CAR wsiting for her! He didn't get out to go in & see my mom, he didn't say hello, he just sat there like a bump on the log! If they only knew how silly they looked in trying so hard to avoid u...it's crazy! So you see.... I am just sooooo glad that I saw my way out of there, and I remain "EverSoGrateful Hang in the kiddo...we're all pullin for ya! Huggs n Love.... EverSoGrateful!
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Best Committee Meeting Yet - They threatened to call the police on me!
by SickofLies inyeee haaa!
i'm an outlaw now!
the elders warned me that if any i talk about anything said in the judicial committee or post any pictures i've taken, i'm in big trouble and i don't want these people as enimies!
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EverSoGrateful
I was not able to go to any of the links.... someone has taken them down..... :(
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TRESPASSING
by blondie inwoman wins trespassing judgment against jehovah's witness.
miscellaneous news.
source: foxnews.
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EverSoGrateful
I have 2 no tresspassing signs 10 feet before you get to my door ... AND a private property sign there as well PLUS a noo soliciting on my door and yet they STILL come to my door.... OH and did you see how the congregation stood up for it's preachers out there???? It said it's VOLUNTARY!!!! HAHHAHAHA! If I was in a congregation still, I would print that off & carry it with me to all of the get togethers & share it with everyone.... see... you don't HAVE to go door to door! strictly volunteers! unbelievable!
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Did you Exit the Witnesses Gradually - Or Exit Suddenly - Your Reasons ?
by flipper ini thought it would be good to discuss it to understand what caused some of us to exit suddenly, or some to exit gradually .. myself , i had been in 44 years , had mentally had doubts for years before exiting - but injustices by the elders and my doubts about the " generation " doctrine led me to exit suddenly one night before a meeting.
the elders pissed me off , i went to my seat, picked my books up and walked out - never going back.
so what is your story and reasons ?
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EverSoGrateful
Growing up, we had an Aunt & her daughter that were wittnesses. Her daughter (my cousin) was 1 yr older than me. My cousin was the same age as one of my sisters. Thru the years my cousin would try to get us interested in the watchtower. Eventually when my sis got married in 1978 ...they knocked on her door & it was a quick conversion. She is still in today. She studied with me around 1985 and eventually I joined & got dunked in 1992. My sis & cousin were very pleased. My cousin however married an unbeliever & wound up having kids & a really screwed up marriage. Most of which could be contributed to the organization now as I look back. (It has screwed up so many lives) ...anyway.... about 4 yrs ago my cousin (who was like a sister to me & my other sis.... fell ill. She was in the hospital with pheumonia & and fell during the night on her way to the bathroom in the hospital room. Freak acciden.... she fell on a chair & cut off her air... was dead when they found her ... they revived her & put her on life support... I get the call the next day from one of her kids.... he tells me she is going to die please come.... So.... I drop everything...she is 100 miles away... I am on the way..... to be by my cousins side....please God... don't let her die..... I get htere in the hospital...OMG... a machine is breathing for her.... I am so scared for her.... I call my husband ( my sweet loving non wittness husband & am crying) he drops everthing & drives 100 miles to be with me & my cousin & all of her family & friends .... mostly non wittness friends...(she had started to miss meetings & fade) anyway...... there were a few wittnesses there outside the hospital room...placing their "what happens when you die brochures" bastards.... anyway.... my hubby gets there...he comes in & we are standing by my cousin with her moma standing next to her & I start singing a song we used to sing.... and suddenly tears are coming from my cousins eyes...although she is still in a coma. The nurse immediately comes in & says we are getting her heart rate up too much that we would have to leave the room...actuall we were reaching her ...she knew we were there.....so I am thinking to myself...where is my other sister...why hasn't she shown up...so I call her...and the first thing she says about my cousin lying there dying is " Was she attending meetings on a regular basis?" WHAT??????????? WHAT???????? My cousin is lying here dying & all you want to know is if she has been regular at meetings???? WHAT?????????? I hung up... and the next day we all stood around my cousin ( all of us crying uncontrollably... my husband included ) as they took all of the machines off of her & watched as she breathed her last breadth. THAT was when I knew that the wittness religion was a cold cold place to be & I wanted no more of it. I know my cousin is in heaven now & she has visited me once (in a dream) since she passed. I will never ever step foot in another Kingdom Hall again...ever! God bless this sight for helping all of us thru such difficult times.... I love you all.... and I remain...ever so thankful that I am out..... my other sister is still in & I am hopeful that someday I will see her leave.... but until then....I remain on the outside without her.....
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I spoke to Ray Franz for the first time today
by recovering ini have been feeling very blue and hopeless lately.
i miss my family and needed some affirmation that i am right in my characterization of the jws.
i called ray to hear it from the someone in the know, as to what really goes on in the gb meetings and if they really believe what they say.
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EverSoGrateful
I think all of us know that feeling that you sometimes get after you leave. It can be heartbreaking at times to be away from your family & friends. But try to look at it this way my friend... they are in because they haven't seen their way out. Something has not clicked to get their attention... in order for them to research. You, on the other hand were able to see thru all of the smoke & mirrors. Once you see the real truth of what is going on in the group, then things start to make sense & really.... you should pray for those unfortunate souls who are stuck in there for the time being. Maybe someday they will see the light, but for now they are incapable... as you and I once were..... you have many many friends here.... and all around you. Please stay with us... we need you! love & many huggs...... your new friend.....