Awakened07
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The significance of this image...
by Awakened07 inthey say a picture is worth a thousand words.. .
to me, the picture posted below is one of the - if not the - most significant images i've seen so far in my life.
as i was growing up (a jw), i was taught that the universe was in perfect harmony.
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Did you have "a personal relationship to Jehovah"?
by Awakened07 inremember how it was always stressed how important it was to "have a personal relationship to jehovah"?
that those who got disfellowshipped or disassociated themselves because of what members of the org.
had said or done, or failed doctrine etc., wouldn't have done so "if they only had had a close, personal relationship to jehovah"?
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"If evolution is true, what's to keep us from behaving like animals?"
by Awakened07 inare we "just babies"?
are we "just animals"?.
yes - animals do not and cannot appreciate art, music, poetry, history, beauty etc.
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Help please (Leolaia, Narkissos?).
by Awakened07 innot sure if these are stupid questions or not, but i just thought of it all last night, and would like to have it answered:.
so - the jews around the time jesus came around were apparently expecting a messiah to show up, because of the prophecies in the ot.
so they were waiting for the messiah to 'arrive' at the time.
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Christians: Why are we here (earth) in the first place?
by Awakened07 inanother thread here reminded me of something i used to wonder about while i was still an active jw, and haven't really thought about until now that i was reminded of it again.. - this is probably a very banal question, but (the premise comes first):.
-god created a myriad of angels in heaven before he created our universe and earth, right?.
-and - except for those who rebelled - they are all still up there, right?.
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Did this line of thought ever cross your mind?
by Awakened07 inok - first i should mention that this line of *hypothetical* thought may seem extreme, and it's obviously exaggerated to get a point across.
but it's just one of many, many logical constructs i had in my mind, even when i was still active:.
let's say we have a pioneer sister.
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-Let's say you had never heard of the Bible:
by Awakened07 inlet's say you've grown up in a country that - somehow - has shielded you completely from any knowledge of the bible and its god and history.
all your life you've believed in the four legged, three headed, four winged borlifingus (of course, the arms, legs etc.
are just representations of it's spiritual properties).
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"New light"...
by Awakened07 inthis won't be a long-winded post; just a "quickie", and mostly meant for those still active:.
i find it odd that jehovah's witnesses don't find anything odd about how 'new light' is distributed.
i mean - if this new light comes from jehovah god himself, the creator of the universe and everything in it, wouldn't it be fair to say that it would happen more like in this story:.
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Tower of Babel - /another thing/ God didn't have to do.
by Awakened07 inwe all know the story of the tower of babel, and there are lots of things one can discuss around the topic, like for instance how god actually didn't allow mankind to 'experiment' with governing themselves, but chose to intervene whenever they seemed to get close to being united.. however - that is not the topic of this thread (and has been covered in other threads already).. .
so - what do i mean when i say "another thing god didn't have to do"?.
the first of the things i'm referring to, is the diversity of life itself, as it happens through evolution by cumulative steps of naturally selected, inherited traits over the generations of a population (i'm not going to go into detail here).. so - over to the other thing that god didn't have to do:.
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Time for a new great schism, apostasy, falling away, dissension?
by Awakened07 in"nineteen fourteen - nineteen schmorsteen" ?.
we've had some threads about this, but it seems the general consensus is that they cannot change the 1914 date - it is what the entire organization rests it's doctrine on.. but why do we say that, really?
at one time (and for many, many years), the years 1799 and 1874 were pivotal dates to the bible students.