Posts by billyboy

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Lack of take up of Advance Directive forms

by billyboy in

as some of you know, i am an elder in a southern england congregation.

the britain branch ( policy letter dec 8th 2007) stopped all hlc brothers giving talks at other congregations and as a result the take-up of the advance directive form (ad) has dropped dramatically.

jws are presenting themselves at hospitals without the form and nhs staff are phoning the hlc to ask that an elder visits to help them compose it while in hospital.. the uk branch is asking hlc members to meet up with bodies of elders so that we can "educate the brothers" (their expression) - we had our meeting a few weeks ago with a couple of the hlc brothers.

billyboy

I did ask the HLC members a few questions but it is very difficult to get any reasoning with them as they were just WTBTS drones who parroted everything that the society say (one brother kept on talking about "direction from Mother" so he wasn't exactly the best kind of guy to reason with! They were full of the latest medical advances in "bloodless surgery" feeling that this vindicates the WTBTS (for example there is a new synthethised form of the anti - rhesus negative jab coming out that doesn't require a blood fraction.

The main vibes that I got were the underlying feeling that the WTBTS wants it both ways - they very much want to disassociate themselves from any legal liability while wanting to enforce a 100% take up of the AD forms.

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Lack of take up of Advance Directive forms

by billyboy in

as some of you know, i am an elder in a southern england congregation.

the britain branch ( policy letter dec 8th 2007) stopped all hlc brothers giving talks at other congregations and as a result the take-up of the advance directive form (ad) has dropped dramatically.

jws are presenting themselves at hospitals without the form and nhs staff are phoning the hlc to ask that an elder visits to help them compose it while in hospital.. the uk branch is asking hlc members to meet up with bodies of elders so that we can "educate the brothers" (their expression) - we had our meeting a few weeks ago with a couple of the hlc brothers.

billyboy

As some of you know, I am an elder in a southern England congregation. The Britain branch ( policy letter dec 8th 2007) stopped all HLC brothers giving talks at other congregations and as a result the take-up of the Advance Directive form (AD) has dropped dramatically. JWs are presenting themselves at hospitals without the form and NHS staff are phoning the HLC to ask that an elder visits to help them compose it while in hospital.

The UK branch is asking HLC members to meet up with bodies of elders so that we can "educate the brothers" (their expression) - we had our meeting a few weeks ago with a couple of the HLC brothers. Basically we aren't allowed to address the issue on the platform as this could be seen as public coercion and the WTBTS are very keen to shield themselves legally from any court cases & want to maintain the fiction that this is an individual JW decision.

We are to make a list of JWs in the congregation who haven't completed AD forms & meet up with them in shepherding visits , "encouraging" them to complete the form. Particular emphasis is given to those who are ill , have medical conditions or who have sick children and women of child bearing age who are (or might become) pregnant. Luckily I've managed to distance myself from the calls.

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GB Zone Visit UK May 2011

by billyboy in

i've been invited to a special talk as part of a zone visit by a (yet to be named) gb member in may at bowes road , london.

apparently it is being simultaneously piped to quite a few assembly halls across the uk so that many more jws can "enjoy the privilege"..

billyboy

I've been invited to a special talk as part of a zone visit by a (yet to be named) GB member in May at Bowes Road , London. Apparently it is being simultaneously piped to quite a few assembly halls across the UK so that many more JWs can "enjoy the privilege".

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District Convention speaker recommendations 2011

by billyboy in

every year the wtbts asks a few select top elders / cos to "rate" the brothers in their circuit to see if they qualify to give talks on district conventions.

it would seem that the society are concerned that some brothers are being a bit faddy in shaving their heads.

extract:.

billyboy

Every year the WTBTS asks a few select top elders / COs to "rate" the brothers in their circuit to see if they qualify to give talks on District conventions. It would seem that the Society are concerned that some brothers are being a bit faddy in shaving their heads. Extract:

The brothers you recommend will already have handled circuit assembly or special assembly dayparts; therefore, your ratings should be based on what you have observed. If you know that using a certain brother could be offensive to some in the audience because of past problems or family difficulties, weigh his recommendation carefully. The following questions may help in rating speakers: What is the reputation of the brother as a speaker in the circuit? Is he warm and enthusiastic before a large audience? Can he develop outlined material well? Can he clearly explain the Scriptures? Is he logical and coherent in his delivery? Is he articulate and fluent? Are his presentations easy to listen to and follow? Is he known as a humble, reasonable, and balanced man? Are he and his family well respected and a good example for others to follow? Is he zealous in the ministry? Conversely, these questions should also be considered: Does he have a reputation for being opinionated and dog-matic? Is he known as one who is harsh in judgment? Does he view his own opinion on matters as the final word? Does he procrastinate or handle assignments in a cavalier fashion? If there are questions about his dress or grooming has he responded to counsel? Discernment should be exercised when determining this matter. For instance, perhaps a close shaven hair-cut is related to a health matter or the brother may be balding or this has been his hairstyle for many years and is not a cause of concern. The brother’s overall life pattern should be taken into consideration when determining whether he is truly given to following fads.—

w92 8/15 p. 14 pars. 19-21.

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JW email doing the rounds (GAG alert)

by billyboy in

jw
friends

at times i will greet a brother or a sister at the kingdom hall and i will ask them how they are.. they look at me with tired eyes and say, i'm h.e.r.e.this poem is for all of us who are glad that you are h.e.r.e.. .

the kids were cranky, your husband was late.

the dinner you had ready just had to wait.

billyboy

The happiest people in the world , eh?

I always used to be annoyed when you would ask someone at the KH how they were and they said - "Well , I'm here." Yawn - the martyr complex.

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JW email doing the rounds (GAG alert)

by billyboy in

jw
friends

at times i will greet a brother or a sister at the kingdom hall and i will ask them how they are.. they look at me with tired eyes and say, i'm h.e.r.e.this poem is for all of us who are glad that you are h.e.r.e.. .

the kids were cranky, your husband was late.

the dinner you had ready just had to wait.

billyboy

H.E.R.E.

At times I will greet a brother or a sister at the Kingdom Hall and I will ask them how they are.
They look at me with tired eyes and say, I'm H.E.R.E.This poem is for all of us who are glad that you are H.E.R.E.

The kids were cranky, your husband was late.
The dinner you had ready just had to wait.
But you're H.E.R.E.

A long week in service with 'I'm not Interested'
and most not at home
You just like to have some time all alone.
But you're H.E.R.E.

The job was exhausting , you come home feeling beat
You keep thinking you have that deadline to meet.
But you're H.E.R.E.

Your eyesight is failing, you can't hear all the talk
Your legs feel feeble , it's a challenge to walk.
But you're H.E.R.E.

You've faced challenges , you've faced trial
You pushed yourself that last extra mile.
But you're H.E.R.E.

So we're happy you made it , we know it took courage
You didn't let the world get you discouraged.
Because when you're H.E.R.E. at the meetings you're really
Helping Everyone Remain Encouraged

What your week would be without Jehovah?
Without Jehovah our week would be:
Sinday, Mournday, Tearsday, Wasteday,
Thirstday, Fightday & Shatterday.
Remember seven daysWITHOUT Jehovah makes

One WEAK!!! =

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The elders were told in my hall they can pick up their copy of the elders book tonight!

by life is to short in

ok i know many of you will think i am strange but i tie in to the meeting on tuesday night just for the announcements five minutes ok i might have to listen to just a tad bit of the song it truly is horrible.. ok so just like 10 minutes ago they announced that the elders can go to the po or cobe after the meeting to get their new elders book.

i was like seriously they just announced it.

i was laughing so hard as it has been out on the internet for at least two weeks now and the elders in my hall are now just getting it.

billyboy

They shouldn't announce it like that (I never would have) , but lets be honest - most elders are really a bit thick. Simple as that.

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Video of Public Talk

by Pig in

for those interested in jehovahs witnesses or those wanting to return to the kindom hall, this video is to give you a realistic look at what goes on at the meetings.

enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxmjm0muvvs.

billyboy

Classic! So realistic - almost scary just how close it is to every meeting I've ever been to.

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Source material for elders school

by billyboy in

elders & ms have been told to study the following material before the school.. elders.......... organised to do gods will (od) chapter 7. shepherd the flock of god (ks10) chapters 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11. benefit from theocratic education pages 47-51. ministerial servants........ organised to do gods will (od) pages 78-83 & 93-102 & chapter 7. benefit from theocratic education (be) pages 47-51. .

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billyboy

Elders & ms have been told to study the following material before the school.

ELDERS.........

Organised to do Gods will (Od) – Chapter 7

Shepherd the Flock of God (Ks10) – Chapters 1, 2, 4, 6, 7, 9, 11

Benefit From Theocratic Education – pages 47-51

Ministerial Servants.......

Organised to do Gods will (od) – Pages 78-83 & 93-102 & Chapter 7

Benefit from Theocratic Education (be) – Pages 47-51

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Circuit assembly symposium outline part 3

by billyboy in

apologies for any formatting / paragraph errors.. part 1 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200657/1/symposium-outline-for-circuit-assembly-part-1.

part 2 http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/200863/1/symposium-outline-from-curcuit-assembly-part-2.

the traveling merchants (19 min.

billyboy

I couldn't help but think that this item was something of a throwback to the WTBTS policy on "oppressive big business" from Rutherford times. It almost reads like an extreme Socialist manifesto. While the comments that are made on unnecessary debt burdens & excessive materialism are well made , I don't see any reason to dress them up in such negative rhetoric.