Posts by D8TA

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Remember When D8TA Was..."Crazy"?

by D8TA in

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okay, so it's not "jw related"...but a little "redemption" (again) has come to pass.. remember waaay back in 2001-2002?

( i know there's a bunch of new people here and i post every 6 months, but do your research on the board).

when i posted about the coming abuses from the united states government when they passed the patriot act?.

D8TA

Okay, so it's not "JW related"...but a little "redemption" (again) has come to pass.

Remember waaay back in 2001-2002? ( I know there's a bunch of new people here and I post every 6 months, but do your research on the board). When I posted about the coming abuses from the United States Government when they passed the Patriot Act?

What's happening now?

Have you been using your telephone lately? Maybe to call your Mom in Europe? Wife in Brazil? Dad somewhere in Asia? (oh wait, you haven't been watching the mainstream media lately?).

Oh oh...What's this about the Google and the White House wanting to look at "porn" searches (do you really believe that's a motive) and looking at record searches of what people have been searching? Is it really...seriously (I giggle) for only and just "PORN"? Because, well, you know, PORN is such a national security issue now beyond the terrorist threats and enemies of national security.

Is your daughter/son going to college and using the library?

Are YOU using the library?

Do think you have to have heredity from Kraplapastahn to be noticed?

Still driving your SUV and working your 40 hrs ( + overtime) a week while the security of self preserverance has blinded your eyes to the destruction of liberty? What are you working for? I know, not EVERYONE fits the above stated category, but it applies to everyone in a sense. What...are you...working for? Just to the pay the rent is a pain in the ass...but what about the security of your children's future.

Wait a minute...

...there's people who are new and probably don't know what in sam hill I am posting about and are already formulating replies as to refute and bash this post. Well, um, go back to my previous posts and behold the PROHPETIC MESSAGES I HAD POSTED! MWAHAHAHAHA!

*cough*

Not really. No mysitcal powers exist. Just common sense and a bit of attention to world history and government powers gaining power of the people and information. It's all happened before, and continued to happen, and will happen far after our bodies are returned to the earth.

Sometimes our mislead confidence/trust and patriotism can fuddle our thinking and reasoning. Especially when a President's approval ratings are at a all time low and Osama/Usama/Joe Bin Laden vocal tapes just happen to surface at the "right moment" to justify an administration(s) illegal and unConstitutional behaviour. (excuse me, while I pick up the eyeballs that feel to the floor while rolling them).

It's a field day for left-liberals, they see and spout the atrocities of the current U.S. administration and the right calls them oddballs and degenerates, trying to kill the country...

Okay, fair enough...let's go forward:

NEW PRESIDENT ELECTED (post Bush) and it's a DEMOCRAT!

Well, power has shifted, and now the rightwing-conservatives have a go at the abuses by a Liberal government that is abusing pre-ordained (and not abolished Patriot Act) powers inherited.

Nice vicious cycle CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and Oprah has developed. While they get richer, you sit in a washing machine just a tumbling, trying to make rent/house payments, and one of the greatest Government for, by, and from the people gets destroyed.

In the words of Yoda, "Dangerous this is"!

There's going to be a point within the United States, (oh wait, I should be careful because some upper class military brown nose who made their way into the U.S. Department of Homeland Security who search the internet for threats to national security whild browsing for PORN on Google may be reading this statement) that people with say "enough is enough". That's when violence esculates and revolutions, civil unrest/war, and "bad" things happen. It's all happened before, just remember your history...it's "doomed to repeat itself".

New context!

Insurgent vs. Terrorist.

INSURGENTS! Pretty catchy wordplay isn't it? INSURGENTS in -name the country the U.S. presently occupies- BOMBS every highway, consulate, checkpoint, and Hello Kitty store! "INSURGENT". Look at the word and remember it.

Okay, follow me here for a second:

Let's say, a few years (decade) from now, the Policies of China (backed by it's War Powers) seem to conflict with the idealisms of the Republic of the United States of America. China thinks, "We are right, they are wrong". They invade the U.S. . There are Chinese soldiers on U.S. soil, (um not Hawaii...think entire WEST COAST). Is there a Liberal on Conservative here, that can truly say, "I would, um, sit idle and not purge these foreign invaders"? Well, let's say YOU do start a retaliation. Well welcom to the magical world of INSURGENT LAND. You aren't a terrorist, you are telling the foreign invading army on your soil to get the hell out of Dodge. But, don't forget, China knows what's best for the world and must institute the rule of law, because, well thier way of governing (and political philosophy) is superior. I mean, after all, we NEED the guidance of Chinas political beliefs to insure a safe world.

Are you getting the point yet?

Okay, for the one's who are loss:

YOU CANNOT DICTATE AND IMPOSE DEMOCRACY ON OTHER NATIONS! It's a form of Imperilism, expanstionism, and globalism.

I can only say this for future "prophetic" (in reality; common sense) situation:

The world is going to get more violent, the U.S. will make Iran it's next target. (The why: to expand it's capitolist markets and force the independant nations who seek self preserverance, into a new world economic empire.)

But hey, I am just crazy ol' D8TA.

But remember in 10 more years the words above. ;)

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Life is a Tale Told By an Idiot...

by D8TA in

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so, after many countries and voyages...what have i learned?.

the more i learn, the less i know.. where to begin?.

there is this elusive thought, a star in which i can touch with my fingertips but just can grasp it, evertime my process of understanding of a situation unfolds...it disappears into a sea of apathy.. there is a common link with all humanity.

D8TA

So, after many countries and voyages...what have I learned?

The more I learn, the less I know.

Where to begin?

There is this elusive thought, a star in which I can touch with my fingertips but just can grasp it, evertime my process of understanding of a situation unfolds...it disappears into a sea of apathy.

There is a common link with all humanity. We erect borders, be they; social, political, religious, ethinic, and/or cutltural, yet something must exist in which we can all agree and have understanding upon.

You break out of this box of rules and regulations, dictated and taught from the day you were born. A pre-set to reality. Then, in some glorious moment of clarification, you see the "truth" to what path was laid before you. You see, contrary to what you were taught to belive to be true, that it was a lie. Your world shatters, the door of exploration opens.

How do you pick up the pieces of a abused life? Abuse in many forms, be it; Mentally, Psychologically, Sexually, and/or so on? The pieces to pick up, are sole the responsibiltiy of...you.

Pretty tough, isn't it?

What's more difficult, is to try to share your own enlightenment with others.

Is it possible? Hopefully..yes. Reality wise? No.

Coming to a sense of enlightenment of one's situation is done, frankly, by one's self. You came upon a moment in YOUR time, that something clicked, where as you became aware of a controlled process. You escape, and you've set yourself free. Congratualtions. There's nothing selfish about it, it happens to some of us in many predicaments and situations in life.

Now, you have that nagging feeling to share your encounter with personal truth right? You've got to show the one's you care about that your personal escape can benifit them...right? That's the kicker. What you've encountered as to your own personal liberation, is exactly what it is...your OWN PERSONAL liberation.

I know, you want to impliment some type of system into those who still hold the point of view in which you once shared. You want those who you hold dear, close and love...to understand what you have come to realize. You want to "free" them, don't ya?

Know what? Don't worry about it. Don't try it. Best you can do is: Take your freedom and run with it. Let those close to you decern for themselves as to what their opinions dictate as to your actions. They will view as a hero or a villian. Don't tarry about whether THEY stay or leave. Take your freedom...and run with it.

The world isn't as small as you think. It's actually...a pretty big place, full of adventures awaiting and new areas for you to explore. Listen to your heart and it will guide you...and never be concerned as to what "OTHER PEOPLE" may think, for you've earned your freedom.

It can be lonely sometimes and you may feel isolated...yet, there is other people to meet and others share your ideals as to liberation, and don't expect THEM to be the same.

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WTS Sues Website

by Robdar in

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sorry, if this has already been posted.

my sister emailed it to me and i thought that i would share.

D8TA

Yet another, "we want to censor you, but don't censor us" hypocritical example.

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UK "shoot to kill" - mixed up justice

by Simon in

how stupid is this .... the police execute an innocent man going about his lawful business ... no charges.

someone exposes the information showing the police lied and covered up facts about the killing ... arrest her !!.

what a pathetic excuse for a justice system we have.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4280238.stm.

D8TA

I Was Currenlty Having Blond Moment While Typing said:

The Menezes killing was a ,istake but no big deal ,if the guy hadn't run then he wouldn't have got shot. What sort of idiot runs onto the underground when challenged by armed police just days after a terrorist bombing? If I were an armed police officer I would have shot first rather than risk the chance of another bomb on the underground .

Excuse me. Can you please describe to me Mr. Menezes current education in English? Or his perception and knowledge as to the culture of the island? Or perhaps, did you read that Sr. Menezes "didn't run". Do you know much about how Brasilian react to Police in...oh say in Brasil? Do you know anything about the state of mind as to a Brasilian in a foreign country? Do you know anything about Brasilians at all?

Fala Portuguese? Fui pra Brasil? Sabe cultura do Brasil? Tem comprehencao como os povos do Brasil tem com Policia em geral? Nao? CALAR SUA BOCA, TOLO IGNORANTE!

It's no big deal, right? South American Brasilian, unarmed, shotdown...because of cover-up and lies say he "ran"..just another "brown person" dead. Does that justifiy killing somebody, because they "ran"? Does it justify killing somebody when claims that he was there illegally (when he wasn't, has family there and was there legally)?

So, let's say I see you running near the site of the 2 towers in NY, and I am an armed police police officer. I shout for you to stop. Would you like me to shoot you? How about your mother? Dad? Sister? Brother? Cousin? Close Friend? Can I? Perhaps because YOU DON'T HEAR ME OR UNDERSTAND? Maybe You (they) were trying to catch a taxi, because you were late?

Plan fact (not truth), London Police screwed up. Just like any other law enforcement agency, despite what country they exist in, they screwed up on being a bit trigger happy. They violated and destroyed a life. It was a time of tension, sure, but times of tension do not excuse their actions, in fact it's a time to be extra cautious. They shouldn't of shot him dead. He committed no crime that warranted a death sentence.

You bet, when Brasileiros begin their critics of (insert name of nation) Police, I am the first to show that 3 fingers are pointing back when one is pointing at another.

It was an unjust act...it was wrong period...it IS a BIG deal. Nobody is in the right to "shoot first and ask questions" later. This is a bunch of Hollywood crap that only the ignorant and foolish can identify with, because they have no clue as what goes on in the world outside their small and limited in vision life and FoxNews T.V. sets.

His life, Your Life, My life, are equal in value. When a misunderstanding as such takes place...it's this type of U.S. borne philisophy that makes the rest of the world view people who hold such opinion, as ignorant and plain stupid.

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Oh wait, did you all think I was dead?

I just happened to come here, because...well...sorry all...I was bored and wanted to see what was happening in the "ye olde world of those who left a mind controlling cult".

So in double post I will catch you up:

I got married in Brasil and lived my most beautiful and wonderful wife Lucimar. We are trying hard (giggle) for our first baby, but there's a catch: IMMIGRATION! It has been a pain to get a Spousal Visa. I've jumped many a hoop, and cut many a red tape, and after a small problem between us...she will be here in November.

Why return to the States? Very simple. Should our children be born in Brasil, they would not be recognized as U.S. citizens, yet if they are born in the U.S., Brasil will recognize them as Brasilian citizens...this way, VISA fees and the immigration circus mess would be minimized, they'll have dual citizenship. Also, my children are not to be held to my opinion as to global politics and international relations. They deserve the chance to form their own opinion. The U.S. provides a better opportunity for such in the realms of education (especially if we are blessed with a girl).

It's funny, how children can make you stop and compromise on very firm and stout beliefs. How love can influence and change one's opinions. I just want our kids to have something most kids in Brasil do not. A chance for a decent education. I wouldn't of minded starting over in France of England...but, since I grew up in the U.S., it's here that I can give the advantage for our kids. Plus, I can take them to a baseball game. :)

(edited for spelling and grammatical errors, usually because my bi-lingual mind is thining 80-20 (Portuguese BR - Ingles).

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Where Would Americans Migrate Safely and Happily?

by Doubtfully Yours in

lots of people migrate to the united states.. is there a good country for an american to migrate?

we've been toying with the idea of relocating outside of the u.s. for quite some time now.

hubby and i both speak, read and write english and spanish very well, and have pretty good computer skills which would help with the job situation.. which countries would you all recommend?.

D8TA

I would say Brazil, but if you don´t have the experience with the culture, don´t...and because...IT´S MINE! AAAALLLL MINE!

In fact, no, stay where you are...it´s terrible and awful...they sacrifice virgins to...eh...the...um...mulititude of ah...volcanoes? Yah! The volcanoes here are horrific...and not to mention the earthquakes and tornadoes...god damn awful I tell ya! Ooooh, and they steal the women and rape the horses, after ripping your heart out during Thugee occult meetings.

Stay away...far away. :P

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Thar she blows.............Mt. St. Helens is erupting again

by Mulan in

i just turned on the tv while i eat my breakfast (late one) and two minutes ago, the mountain began a new eruption.

so far it looks like an enormous cloud.

time will tell what is in there.

D8TA

Oh...the dreaded ¨Mt. St. Helens made and Ash of Herself¨ memories. Not again, please...not again.

Guess I should come up to see it...like, next week maybe...hint hint.

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Pitcairn Islanders - Paedophiles?

by Englishman in

the descendents of the crew of captain blighs ship, hms bounty, still live on the tiny uk dependancy of pitcairn island in the pacific.

they number a mere 47, the islands total population.. many have been accused of molesting under-age children, and the uk government has set up court on the island to resolve the matter.

story here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3702448.stm.

D8TA

Soooo....should they be prosecuted criminaly? Explain why.

Regardless of anybody´s ¨opinion¨ outside THIS forum, want personal opionions ( can´t go wrong with those ) here, as in...because Dr. So-n-So said this, or Judge Judy said that...nope, want good old fashion personal opinions. I am not going to debate this. I am just interested...serious. My only questions without response.

My opinion? No. Why? Because it is still a tribal system. What´s next? Tribes in Indonesia and Africa succumbing to the law of the new world? Tricky business.

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Not Allowed To Enter U.S. Because of Religious Affiliation?

by D8TA in

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many people know this man and his history...his life.

shame on the u.s., once more.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133095,00.html

D8TA

he was highly critical of Israel's handling of the unrest in the occupied territories.

And I am very highly critical of the U.S., does that make me a terrorist????

It was alleged in an Israeli military court in the Gaza Strip this week that he had gone much further and given about 4,000 Pounds (pds) to the fundamentalist Islamic movement, Hamas.

Does somebody want to point out the word that makes a difference in this sentence...I said PROOF...not ALLEGATIONS!

To drive a point home Xena, if I go to a MILITARY COURT THAT OPPOSES your beliefs and allegate that you are a child molester...is my allegation true?

Another IAP brochure, authored by Yusef Islam, formerly known as the singer Cat Stevens before he converted to Islam, contains plain old anti-Semitism: "The Jews seem neither to respect God nor his creation. Their own holy books contain the curse of God brought upon them by their prophets on account of their disobedience to Him and mischief in the earth. We have seen the disrespect for religion displayed by those who consider themselves to be 'God's chosen people.' ... There will be no justice until all the land is given back to its rightful owners ... Only Islam can bring peace back to the Holy Land..." From his home in Great Britain, Islam/Stevens has also raised tens of thousands of dollars for Hamas, in cooperation with the British fundraising arm of Hamas, known as the Relief Fund for Lebanon and Palestine.

We want that brochure, in full and not taken out of context...and even with this presentation...show me the proof in where he is supporting and promoting violence...one more time...against the U.S. These are ALLEGATIONS, where are the records the brocure in full? The transactions? This is a quote from testimony from one man on terrorism with allegations. There are still a number of questions as to his connections to Hamas.

Now...again: Without Rushdie and Israel...why is this man a threat to national security of the United States?

Roy Batty you are justifying your country´s bullying and I need nothing more to see that you support an oppressive regime. Your opinion.

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Not Allowed To Enter U.S. Because of Religious Affiliation?

by D8TA in

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many people know this man and his history...his life.

shame on the u.s., once more.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133095,00.html

D8TA

So have you looked into it yourself? Have you found out if he has indeed sent money to these groups? Have you even researched his public comments that people have posted here?

Duuuuh huh? Yes I have, so I challenge these commentators to supply proof. Proof of affiliation with known terroist groups. Proof of donations to any terrorist groups. Proof of comments, quotes, words of anything threatning the security of the United States of America or it´s citizens. The ball is in your court. Jesus...this is your response? What kind of not-well-thought-out-bucked-tooth-billy-bob response is that? ¨Duh huh, uh...have you proof that he...uh has NOT said that¨? Way to go Capt. Logico! Bad turn-around, try again

Never seen a pacifist who wanted so many people dead.

Again...back up where he wants these so many people dead? Ball is in YOUR court.

Fine with me. Let China be in charge.

What a radio-land right wing response. ¨In charge¨...like once country NEEDS to be in charge of the whole world. As if the China is going to steam roll over the world with it´s foreign policy and military might to make sure it´s policy and politics are going to be enforced...oh wait, that´s the United States job. Are you using the lesser of two evils argument here? ¨Hey, do you want to: A) Eat crap or B) Eat Crap or C) All of the above. NO country, including the U.S., has the right to use force to dictate policy, religion, beliefs, markets, etc. etc. to anybody in the world...nor is anyone in charge of Peace and Security in the world. The U.N. is set up to exactly that. You go against the U.N. because YOU want YOUR policy and security enforced.

Pull all of our troops from overseas (starting with Korea) and see what happens. Funny how people in countries like Japan love to bash the US but suddenly when North Korea has missles that can reach their shores everyone is wondering what the US will do

God Bless You All and Merry Christmas to those who WANT your presence on their soul of security. There are a number of nations and people who live in such nations ( under regimes that play ball with the U.S. *cough cough* Arabia and Egypt ) who want you OUT.

How about our friends in Iran? For over 18 years they've been lying about their nuke program. Who's going to stop them? The UN? lol. Do you feel comfortable with them having a nuke?

U.S. use of nukes: 2 Iran: 0 U.S. had even threatened to make use of small nuclear arsenals at the beginning of this Iraq war. Hello, hypocrosy at it´s finest. ¨No, No, we can use nukes in the name of our Capotilist Empire...but you an Islamic state...naughty naughty...you should not play with big boy toys¨. Again, Lesser of Two Evils argument. Round and round we go.

So you hate that we went into Iraq. Hey, go watch the videos of Saddam's men chopping up people with swords and then get back to me about why the world is not a better place with him gone.

Why not a number of other regimes, dictators, military ruled lands that have a higher death toll? Oh yah, that´s right first it was WoMD that were never found and now it´s because Saddam was a bad man argument...because you can´t tip-toe around your exposed agenda in Iraq of trying to protect your precious oil markets...and to have a strong presence right in the center of the Mid-East. What a bunch of fluff your arguments are. I´m sorry, how many people died in Iraq because of food and medical sanctions as to people who died by Saddam´s hands? Research it buddy. J.H.C.

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Not Allowed To Enter U.S. Because of Religious Affiliation?

by D8TA in

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many people know this man and his history...his life.

shame on the u.s., once more.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,133095,00.html

D8TA

D8TA, where's your response?????

Very simple: Allegations without proof. Show me a list of what groups he has been supporting, and proof to go with that? Quotes of violence against the U.S. ( not anti-U.S. statements, such as criticisms )? Phrases? Where is the proof? The man is a pacifist for Christ´s sake...Allah´s? It´s funny actually, here you have a pacifist ( and many other´s, many Brazilians come back to Brazil with experiences about being yanked off planes and interrogated because they simply LOOK mid-eastern ) who is denied entry into the U.S., you sit here trying to justify it, when your very politics, markets, corporations, and military go into other countries...without U.N. or other coutries support. Guess your arrogance and fear gives you the right. How about a compromise: U.S. doesn´t want people going to the U.S. ( immigrants, people with different non-violent ideas, pacifists, the poor, the cold, the hungry ) right? You think that everyone is a terrorist and swing axes with labels and want to justify your position for ¨homeland security¨...fair enough, it´s YOUR land. How about this: Get your politics, markets, and military out of other peoples lands....you are not wanted nor needed. How about all of YOU, stay at home in your comfy U.S. and just not come here, or anywhere else? We don´t need your bomb´s, bullets, tanks, planes, markets, politics, idealisms, policy, and products. You are not offering these to world, you are forcing...and it´s the world that is telling you so. You don´t bring peace, you make war and depend on it...be it with military or corporate-market-economic force. The funny thing about this, it doesn´t touch you now...but one day it will. Directly or indirectly ( a family member or loved one ) who is going to be put on some ¨list¨ with nothing more than allegations, then you will cry about how unfair it is....and nobody will listen, because you were so hard headed and arrogant to realise there are people trying to stop this great travesity against justice and freedom before it goes any further. Don´t think it will happen? ( Oh oh...I feel another, ¨I told you so¨ moment arisen ) *waves hands in the air* Oh lordy, lordy... gonna make-a prophesy...within the next 6 months-ah...attitudes will-a-change-a due to another scandel-o-ah in the U.S. of A-ah. What does it take, to have a nation wake up and take of it´s blindfolds? Nothing. Fruitless, why even try? Like a spoiled child with a hard head who says, ¨I am right, right, right, right, and the whole world...every other country that critcizes me and my 2 friends....is wrong, wrong, wrong.¨ * smirks and smiles, and winks *