Do you realize how much more WORK there is involved in being a special pioneer? and no one to cook meals for you and clean your house .... and how much more door knocking is involved?
That would be a HUGE culture shock as far as I'm concerned.
i have already seen in my local congregation the "blessing"
this bethellite couple has been reassigned as special pioneers, and they have accepted this blessing.
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Do you realize how much more WORK there is involved in being a special pioneer? and no one to cook meals for you and clean your house .... and how much more door knocking is involved?
That would be a HUGE culture shock as far as I'm concerned.
ok this morning i wrote about panic crisis so i think i have one now.
i was on the forum and in my mailbox there was a message that said me :.
i could not help but feel for you very much.
hahaa... I think that's hilarious. No one has ever PM'd me anything like that. I guess I'm not worthy.
For the record, I used to live in Quebec when I was toddler. We used to live on Rue des Ardens. I can remember that even though we moved to FL when I was 7 yoa. I remember a few JWs from that time period too.
hey guys,.
assume you're talking to a faithful, indoctrinated jw that is only now getting some doubts rolling in his head.
let's say that he doesn't have much info yet, hasn't done much research, and is pretty scared of anything that smells "apostate".
The thing is, if you really and truly believe in God that won't change. Your personal relationship with God has NOTHING to do with the middle-man called the Watchtower society. You can still pray, live your life with faith and read the bible if that is what you choose.
I am always amazed that people think they need another human to be their mediator or middle-man between themselves and God.
I don't go to church. I don't participate in any religion and I don't feel like I'm missing anything.
many of us are familiar with the theme of this years district convention, "deliverance at hand".
i don't know if the publication release has been leaked yet, but i thought it might be fun to speculate about what it possibly could be.
i'll start it off... .
The only deliverance will be around 3pm when you know the final talk is about to be given and you will finally be delivered from the boredom of the assembly.
Thank god I haven't had to endure one in 10 years!!!! YEAH FOR ME!!!!
there was a thread started not too long ago about how jws feel what the paradise would entail.
one thing i always wrestled with in my mind is that once the earth would be populated with perfect humans that procreation could cease.
eventually the children would grow up and we would be able to associate with perfect adults.
Talk about being "nothing new under the sun" at that point.
The whole idea of living forever with JWs really bores me. No thank you. Can you imagine though they probably would still have meetings every Tues, Thurs and Sunday.... like reading the bible for the millionth time would be fun or necessary. Wouldn't you have it memorized by then? I guess no more door-to-door though.
a month ago my mother died.
she had been a witness for 40 years.
when she was sick she got me wondering if all the witnesses think that this system will come to an end in there lifetime and they won't have to go thru death?
My mother in her 60's still believes she will walk into the paradise through Armeggedon. There are times though when questioned she says even if she dies she will be resurrected into the paradise.
I'm just so thankful now at 31 yoa that I am living my life, not sitting and waiting for something that isn't happening. It's so sad. My only wish is that my mother in her lifetime would actually awaken to the idea that it's all been a sham, although I know the reality of it would probably kill her.
hi everyone, i am supposed to meet with an elder tonight.
i met several times with him before going over questions (my mother thinks he will restore my evil thinking).
anyway we have already gone over all of the basics (1874,1914,607 no answer for this one, the un and everything else).
I was baptized at 11 yoa, then pioneered while being home schooled and I believed in it all 110%. I was the perfect little JW. But I too had an older sister. She was not living at home, had gotten her college degree and always tried to tell me but I dismissed her. I really didn't want to hear what she had to say. Honestly it was years before I could even think of listening to her.
But around 18-19 yoa the organization, not it's teachings, really turned me off. The lack of love, the lack of support, the cliques, the people all pissed me off. My mother was really sick and no one cared. The only thing people did was continue to knock on doors, they just didn't care at all about us. That was my turning point. I quit it all but it took several more years before I actually did the research needed to answer my own questions. Once I did there has been no turning back.
I applaud you for actually doing your own investigations. I'm 31 and have a REAL life. Married with a house, friends, have a great time in life, nice job, education and most of all I carry around no guilt, no baggage, and have no judgemental critics following me around nit-picking my life and whether my skirt is long enough or I comment enough at meetings.
i don't know if i could've 15 years ago because of having nowhere else to go, but now i know i couldn't stay.
what about you??
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The internet has zero effect on my choice to walk away. I had distanced myself a few years before I even finally bought my first computer.
Although I think it's great that almost everyone now is CONNECTED!!!!
obviously, there is no answer to this, i just think it's an interesting ??.
my personal opinion is that within 10 years, the wts will be a shell of it's current (and especially former) self.
it may not even take that long.
Personally I know there is a whole generation of believers that are die-hards, people like my mother who have lived their entire lives believing they will be the people to walk through the "great tribulation" on into the paradise. They will not give up hope, they are in their 50's and 60's and will continue to believe until the day they die.
The younger generations that follow their parents due to social pressure, whatever will be the generation to eventually let the WTS go. I don't know if that will take 10 years or 40 years... but it will happen. Kids today are taught more and more in school, are more informed, are more connected and are more smart. You can't just blindly teach inaccurate truths. Plus the Watchtower refuses to evolve into a friendly organization that welcomes people of all kinds. There are more and more religions that are more community and socially based with activities for kids and programs. So, with no new growth it's just a matter of time before the big donors die off and the younger generations walk away.
the talk given today sounded pretty convincing.
facts were stated about how our body is designed to live forever (the brain, blood vessels etc) and how all these intricated details about the human body raises us to ask the question: "did not jehovah design us with the purpose of living forever?
now i've read the threads about how there just would not be enough room in the world for all those people.
WHY would people live forever when the natural thing is the cycle of life? Did you know that EVERYTHING has a cycle? I mean think about it. Water has a cycle, it's in the clouds, it's rain, then it's part of a river, then it goes underground, then it's part of a waterfall, then it gets evaporated and starts as a cloud again. Rocks have cycles. Plants have cycles. There is always rebirth, life and death in nature. WHY should people live forever? That makes no sense to me when EVERY living thing including plants, animals, etc all die off when their time comes.
Living forever is a myth, a fairy tale, the reality is that we are all born, we all have a limited amount of years and we should make the MOST of our lives.... then we have to accept that we will die eventually. The sooner we accept the cycle of life the sooner you can start LIVING YOUR LIFE. If you live your entire life based on the mythical idea of a future paradise then you will literally waste the REAL YEARS of your life.