I loved your analogy of the dog with the dirty bone, I'll have to remember that.
Thanks for the shoe in" about my advice and comment. I have found with teen teenagers one should never pull the rug out from under them too fast, do so with care.
how can i help my son?.
after speaking with my son (a jw) today, i realise that he has many hurt feelings that he hasn't dealt with.
his childhood affected him more deeply than i realised because he hasn't really opened his heart like he did today.
I loved your analogy of the dog with the dirty bone, I'll have to remember that.
Thanks for the shoe in" about my advice and comment. I have found with teen teenagers one should never pull the rug out from under them too fast, do so with care.
how can i help my son?.
after speaking with my son (a jw) today, i realise that he has many hurt feelings that he hasn't dealt with.
his childhood affected him more deeply than i realised because he hasn't really opened his heart like he did today.
How can I help my son?
After speaking with my son (a JW) today, I realise that he has many hurt feelings that he hasn't dealt with. His childhood affected him more deeply than I realised because he hasn't really opened his heart like he did today. His father who is not a JW and never has been,was a heavy drinker and the only interest he took in our son was to torment him or put him down. I tried my best to be both parents and took him to the KH but I had problems of my own and feel that I failed him.
I am sure that my son would benefit from counselling or some form of therapy,but when I suggested it
he said that keeping himself busy in "Jehovah's Organisation" and talking to other JW's was the answer. I tried to say to him that keeping busy was only a way of shutting out his feelings and not a way of healing, but he believes that everything outside the Org. isn't necessary. He has totally isolated himself from everything in the " world " that I despair of ever getting through to him. My son sincerely believes everything that he has been told by the borg and doesn't seem to have any suspicions at all. I know that he doesn't read anything or look at anything he is told not to, and is therefore completely under the borgs control.Perhaps he was unhappy so has made a new "reality" in his life as a JW!!
I have to ask myself ,is it right for me to try and tell him the truth about his "reality" if he is really happy there?
Would I do more damage than good, that's if he would listen to me anyway?I feel so upset and confused and worried about everything right now!
Maddie
~ ~ ~ Maddie, the question should be asked how old is your son first, if he is 18 or older or even if he is approaching his teens a son or a daughter should be given the latitude to begin choosing for themselves what their own perception of god and spirituality should be. It sounds like your son has built a strong spiritual foundation namely he is aware of his spiritual need. We may call the Witness's the Borg or Landrew (like I do) or other such catch phrases but the fact of the matter remains that to have our children involved with the Witness's or basic religion to the point of it guiding their conscious in the right way, and especially giving them hope of some kind, is one of the best ways to keep them alive in many ways that some us on this forum may forget. I lost my daughter in death from such things two years ago, now, I would much rather see her going from door to door then seeing her ash's setting on my mantle. Jehovah in essence has been your sons true father like the "fatherless boy" and by his kindness kept him away from Meth, immorality, and host of things that would bring him down utterly and possibly even his life. Don't take away from him what has been protecting him, namely his god, or you may find your self fighting god himself.
"blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth.".
matthew 5:5.. .
"the century dictionary defines meek as 'self controlled and gentle; not easily provoked or irritated; forbearing under injury or annoyance.
By the way this is not Jehovah's Witness's thinking on matters.
"blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth.".
matthew 5:5.. .
"the century dictionary defines meek as 'self controlled and gentle; not easily provoked or irritated; forbearing under injury or annoyance.
That is ok Zeroday I have been where you are and fight everyday to keep my head above water sort to speak. The only true peace I have ever found that is honestly peace for me is to take hold of some sort of semblance of spirituality, I guess for me I am hungry for it.
"blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth.".
matthew 5:5.. .
"the century dictionary defines meek as 'self controlled and gentle; not easily provoked or irritated; forbearing under injury or annoyance.
"Blessed are the meek For they shall inherit the earth."
Matthew 5:5.
"The Century Dictionary defines meek as 'self controlled and gentle; not easily provoked or irritated; forbearing under injury or annoyance.' Webster defines meekness as 'submissive to the Divine will; patience and gentleness from moral and religious motives.' "
"The reward of this grace,....like the others, is future;....these shall be heirs of God, joint-heirs with Jesus Christ; and the earth is part of that great inheritance, which in turn, by Divine arrangement, they shall bestow at the close of the Millennial age, upon the world of man kind."
"If my people who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14.
"Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience. Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace." Colossians 3:12 & 15.
"Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you." 1 Peter 5:6-7.
"Then he continued, "Do not be afraid, Daniel. Since the first day that you set your mind to gain understanding and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard, and I have come in response to them." Daniel 10:12.
interesting read.. .
god hates you; but god is hungry and needs you to help him eat your soul.
he chuckles to himself that he cannot only suck out your life and being, but he can make you believe the lie as well.
Your post seems quite negative, was it supposed to be? There is enough negative in this life, lets dig up some positive.
as a child, i believed jdubs were the only ones who had truths.
we as children tried to live our lives clean without smoking, drinking, cussing, stealing and etc,.
as i became an adult and associated with others, i had fallen beneath the jw cracks.
" Now, I feel stressed out and depressed about the whole ordeal that I have sinned and failed to be a good JDUB. Something in my brain does not let it go, I still want to please God. I seemed to not be able to let go of JDUBS teachings, out of my mind. Since I have fallen short and straighten up my life style through prayer and with age, I live life like a nun still trying to please God. I know Jesus died for sinners, so why should I feel like I failed. "
I understand just how you feel because you see I too was raised a Jehovah's Witness's as well as most of us in here. I am in recovery much like an alcoholic that is recovering from the dependency that comes from being a Witness's, I know whole heartedly that if I as well as all of us would have been raised as the bible students were and still are the "Associated Bible Students" life would have been much easier for all of us.
Rutherford did not help the sheep of Christ at all, he weighed them down with his man made rules.
Think about it, it's the control efforts that the GB heaped on the rank and file, they have added more burden on us as humans and as struggling Christians seeking to please Jehovah needless do's and don'ts that go far beyond scripture, they have replaced our own conscious with their own and made us extensions of them selfs. For this their will be and accounting from Jehovah, for all those who they have stumbled along the path to life.
you know, the one where independent bible research is forbidden, er, discouraged.. .
did anybody actually have the balls to say, "the society does not say such activities are forbidden or discouraged, just not endorsed?
" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).
Same here Shell, I agree with a whole hart.
Oh can I say hi to all my ex-brothers in Ogden Utah who really were not my brothers in faith any way.
Hi Bobby I know your in here lurking, and Joe and Rick and Albert, and Robin and Dave and Neil I used to think we were such good friends but it was all a mind trip like the bible says a true friend is loving all the time.
I would say hi to all my elder brother in-laws but they are computer illiterate anyway. (Im haveing fun huh.)
I wonder what affect if any all these shows on U-Tube have the Witness's?????
those who aren't in the truth i feel much pity for you.
all of you are filled with much hatred and anger that all you can do is blast out of your stupid mouths horrible things about the one true religion.
i feel sorry for you that you will not have ever lasting life.
I think everyone of us on this form have felt the same way you do 333, I know I did the first time I entered this form and read the posts I guess its because in the Jehovahs Witness religion if a brother or sister voices any feelings as these you live in fear, that is all I can say. And that should be all it takes to show you something is wrong.
I listened tonight on the phone hook up with my elderly mom how all the rank and file answered the questions posed about the KM article, I have to say it just made me sick the robotic Zombie like way they all answered back with out any thought to what they were really saying, what a farce I guess its the will of Landrew.