Topics Started by Pinku
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The frustration of talking to a person with a closed mind
by TheStumbler inokay, this is going to be a bit of a general rant.
i had a long conversation with a jw elder recently about shunning and evolution.
i became qunite frustrated with the conversation and admitted this at the time.
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Will it someday be possible to read another person's mind, without his or her even knowing it?
by Pinku inscientists transmit thoughts from one brain to another.
sep 7, 2014, 6:27 am et.
column by lee dye.
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Need help talking with my JW mom who's now willing to "listen" to what we have to say...
by 2pink inmy husband and i (both born in jws--entire extended families all still in excpet for my sister) left the church 5 years ago.
i literally woke up one day and realized it wasn't the "truth".
i did not fade, i just left and told my family i didn't believe it anymore.
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How much of our mind is our own?
by jgnat inmargaret singer, pioneer in the study of cults, chaired the alberta psychological association (apa) task force on deceptive and indirect methods of persuasion and control (dimpac) from 1983-1987. the final report of this task force was rejected by the apa, and has not been published.
the apa noted that the brief characterized the theory of brainwashing as not scientifically proven and lacking scientific and methodological rigor.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/apa_task_force_on_deceptive_and_indirect_methods_of_persuasion_and_control#reported_conclusions_of_the_dimpac_task_force.
the apa has since dismissed the use of the word "cult" and switched to the term "new religious movements".
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Finally some good news for JWs from science!
by Pinku innow jws can ask: what is the big deal about bringing changes in teaching!
did not such a great scientist, stephen hawking, create ripples by saying that his most famous discovery of black holes did not actually exist, after all?
and hawking is only a tip of the ice-berg!
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JW stand on Philosophy is inexcusable!
by Pinku inpaul knew that torah with all its rituals and sacrifices did not originate with god (jeremiah 7:22; 8:8), hence he warned christians to guard against deceptive philosophy that would take them back to torah.
(colossians 2:8 compare 2:11, 16, 17) in view of the over-all view of the bible, there is no excuse to use the word philosophy with any negative connotation.
jws built their stand on philosophy based on this wrong (negative) use of the word philosophy found in colossians 2:8.. the greek word philosophi a means love of wisdom.
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Organized Social Entertainment from 08/1960 KM
by Rattigan350 inorganized social entertainment from 08/1960 km (the indoctrination for the future).
1 from one locality it is reported that there is a regular arranging of social events,not at the kingdom hall where such sociabilities are prohibited, (emphasis added) but in halls rented on the outside, and that to these events the brothers of not only one congregation but of others in the vicinity are invited.
the motive for holding these parties is set forth as being to enable particularly the young folk of the congregations to get better acquainted with one another.
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Governing Body Worship in the WT: July 15th, 2014 issue
by Oubliette inthe july 15th, 2014 issue of the watchtower has the "life story" of gb member gerrit losch on pages 17-22.. think about it.
this losch love-fest is 6 pages of the current wt!.
that's nearly 20% of the ragazine.. is this the beginning of a series of idolatrous articles indoctrinating jws with gb worship?
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Is this ignorance or arrogance?
by Pinku injws refrain from voting in the political elections saying politics belongs to satan (in obvious violation of bible statement that secular governments are gods minister on earthromans 13:1-6) being built on american soil, there is no reason to think that jws are ignorant of our founding fathers like benjamin franklin who wrote in his autobiography that good leadership rested on the foundation of moral and spiritual character.
he lists in it 13 virtues (such as contentment, humility ......) he valued the most which became the basis of a chart that he used daily to check his attitude and behaviors!.
he tells us that contentment is the greatest asset one can have (because you may have everything else you can dream of, yet if you do not have contentment, it is like you have nothing), yet it is something you are born with, the essential quality of your being.
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SHOCKING elder's talk: "..when we are baptized we abdicate all responsibility to think for ourselves.."
by yadda yadda 2 ini found this recorded elder's talk (presumably genuine) quite disturbing in how he states that in order to maintain unity, jw's have given up thinking for themselves and passed over their thinking ability to the governing body.. "when you're baptized, your thinking is not your own anymore...your thinking is done for you...we carry out to the letter everything the society tells us to do..." .
his concluding statement "stop thinking for yourselves!".
there's the usual reference to the korah and those who challenged moses, but "you in the congregation are safe as long as you don't speak out against the elders and jehovah's organisation...".