Dear Had
Enough,
:Please....don't think that we are all of such low "lynch mob" mentality that we will settle for only a simple accusation ourselves. To fight so strongly against this cause without even first hearing the evidence does a great injustice to those victims suffering in silence for so many years. Put yourself in the place of a parent whose child accuses someone and exhibits evidence of being molested only to be silenced by unqualified men following orders from the WTS. Could you then protect and support this org?:
When have I tried to protect the organization here? I simply asked for evidence and, since none seemed to be forthcoming, I pointed this fact out to certain interlocutors participating in this thread: Duns is not fighting against anyone. Why, I've even admitted that we (JWs) may have to change our policy one day. But logic and Scripture must dictate our decision (not hysteria, innuendo, or embellishing statements).
:Several of the elders in one previous congregation I attended barely finished grade 8 education...How can they be expected to have the insight to deal with such complex issues? I know that wisdom doesn't always have to come from a book...some have a gift of reasoning...but I know from experience that most uneducated men do not know how to treat people with deep emotional or physical problems.:
I'm not saying that elders should try to treat people with "deep emotional problems or physical problems." My remarks have to do with the spiritual dimension that motivates congregation elders to adjudicate cases in the way they do. There appears to be a place for psychologists and therapy where circumstances necessitate such remedial efforts. But a child who comes home depressed after visiting Brother Moe and Sister Sally does not necessarily have to be rushed off to see Dr. John.
:We here all want the whole truth... the real truth to come out. It serves no purpose to any of us to have the WTS fall because of lies. The REAL truth is for what we all so desperately strive.:
I think that you think you want the real truth to come out. Our treacherous hearts (our sinful unconscious motivations), however, may deceive us if we are not careful. The masters of suspicion (Freud, Nietzsche, and Marx) have warned us about the subconscious forces that motivate our behavior.
:What I object to is your seeming generalization of those of us posting here as boozing, promiscuous degenerates. So what if some like to indulge in the old scotch bottle and some lead a different lifestyle that what you or I or many others of us prefer. Some even just joke about it to have fun, but don't live like that.:
My statement must be read en toto and in context. I did not write that every person on this forum boozes it up. We know that there are at least some ethical men and women on this board. Please notice that the Scot also mentioned some believe in evolution or adhere to the tenets of Christendom here. I did not say every man and woman posting on this board is guilty of fornicatin' or drankin'.
:To insinuate that we here have a mob mentality that peers at the bottom of a scotch bottle, insults me to the very core.:
Reread the comments I made to dedalus. Duns is not guilty of argumentum secundum quid. He normally does not generalize when it comes to autonomous rational agents.
:Please before dismissing all that has been said about the upcoming exposure of the WTS, wait and take the time to hear all evidence. To downplay what some have expressed as their own experience, is an injustice to the years of pain and suffering they have gone through. Don't so easily dismiss their outcries until you have at least listened to their "proof".:
I am not dismissing outcries. The present typer just thinks the problem may be exaggerated. Furthermore, the innuendo put forth about Sydlik is not particularly helpful to your case. But I'll wait until Dateline airs their special and work from there.
Sincerely,
Dan
Duns the Scot