Devil's Playground

by catchthis 13 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • catchthis
    catchthis

    I watched a documentary the other day entitled, Devil's Playground. It centered around a few Amish youths when they reached the age of 16. Once all Amish youths reach this age of maturity, according to their church doctrine, they are let loose for an indefinite period of time to experience the world. This time period, called Rumspringa, can last from just a few months to several years. During this span of time, some Amish youths go all out and experiement with drugs, alcohol, sex, etc. The parents do not interfere with this rite of passage, and some still allow their children to live at home during this rite. As is shown in the film, most parents allow their legally underage children to host massive parties on their property during which copius amounts of alcohol is consumed. Some of these parties can have as many as 1,500 kids come in from states all over.

    Something that I was unaware of was that children CANNOT be baptized into the church prior to their 16th birthday. This is also the primary reason for the church's break from Europe centuries ago. The Amish believe that infant baptism is wrong. Only an older, mature person can make a choice to belong to the church. Other things that they believe in include - no wedding rings(the men grow a beard to display that they are married), no official churches to congregate in(they meet in each other's homes every other week on Sundays), and NO centralized Amish "organization," to name just a few.

    As we all know, most jw kids will end up leading a double life to please their parents and also to partake in the normal growing up period of their teens. I found it quite interesting that even though Amish parents realize what their children are doing once they begin rumspringa, they do not cast them out or disown them for going against the basic tenets of the church. But rather, they understand that they need to get this out of their system and will make the right choice later on. In the film, most of the teens knew that what they were doing was wrong and that they instinctively knew deep down that they would go to hell if they kept up with their debauchery. The film also states that the church has a 90% retention rate among their children. I wish that the Society would publish what the current rate of retention is within the organization today among youths. I imagine it is not quite as high.

    To anyone who hasn't seen this documentary, I would recommend it. It even touches on shunning within the church and when the shunning takes place. I will not divulge anything more on that topic. Looking back though, the one fundamental teaching of their church that I found most mind blowing was allowing their children to experience the "world," or going "English," as they put it. I feel that if the witnesses were to do the same thing with their children, there would not be such a hemorage of youth in the organization today. As it is, jw youths have to hide everything they do which only increases the guilt placed on their consciences. If they were allowed to experience the world in a normal way as other young people do, they would probably see the error of their way and return to the faith. But no. Instead, they are prodded to get baptized at the earliest age possible, suppress their natural urges and desires, and to maintain perfect harmony within the organization selling as many books and magazines as possible.

    One more item....during courtship, the two courting are allowed to share a room overnight. Try finding a set of jw parents which will allow THAT to happen.

  • got my forty homey?
    got my forty homey?

    Hot Damn!

    I think got my forty has found a new calling. Open up liquor, porn, and crack store in Strousburg PA.

    Note to self--Offer discount rates to jimburga kids!

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Rumspringa

    That word sounds familiar. In my parents' lingo, it transaltes as 'jumping around'.

    SS

  • got my forty homey?
    got my forty homey?

    Yeah, it sounds like something I do every Friday night!

    Rum, springa to the john for a self cleansing of the ol guliver!

  • tink
    tink

    this is an excellent documentary and i highly recommend it. i think someone started a thread on it a few months back if i remember correctly.

  • gumby
    gumby

    First of all....welcome to the board catchthis

    During this span of time, some Amish youths go all out and experiement with drugs, alcohol, sex, etc.

    How can I contact this group and how can I join? Can I join tomarrow? How soon can I start "rump-springing?

    Actually It's amazing that after the rumpbumping thingy......that anyone would even want to go back to the amish way of life. I wonder how long they party before coming back? If it were me.....my rumphumping would last at least 20 years

    Gumby

  • A Paduan
    A Paduan
    As it is, jw youths have to hide everything they do which only increases the guilt placed on their consciences. If they were allowed to experience the world in a normal way as other young people do, they would probably see the error of their way and return to the faith.

    So you're saying that if they were 'wiser' they'd choose jwism ?

  • Celia
    Celia

    Rumspringa = sounds like the schwaebish pronunciation of Herum-springen, whcih means something like jumping around.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    I like the idea of banning baptism under the age of 16. This is ,after all, official JW teaching - that infant baptism is wrong.

    What we see is an ungodly rush to have early teens baptized. As congs there is a vested interest, in order to achieve "Growth" and another baptized pub. on the record cards. Parents have a "Keeping up with Jones'" pressure if their kid is to be baptized. Youngsters may sincerely at the time want to go through with it.

    A wise old P/O that I once served with would actively dissuade young baptisms, He simply pointed out that if the kid made a slip in teenage years they would have to be treated as an adult wrongdoer and maybe d/fd.

    In my elder days I hated having to deal with judicial cases where people had simply got baptized too young

  • got my forty homey?
    got my forty homey?

    I was baptized at 16 and disfellowshipped at 22. and the only reason I was baptized that young was because of pressure from my parents.

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