God said be fruitful and multiply,fill the earth and govern it.

by atomant 48 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • atomant
    atomant
    l have a problem with this.lf adam and eve didnt sin the earth would eventually have been full to the brim with perfect human beings.Then what every man gets the chop or no more sex?Then on the other hand we have the jw's saying
    1. resurrected ones will not be allowed to marry in the earthly New System.
    2. married survivors of Armageddon will remain married
    3. single survivors of Armageddon may or may not be allowed to marry.So it seems that people reborn into new system wont be able to procreate. And married survivors will stay married so l assume that means they can still hanky panky and have babys thats a bit unfair..The earth can only accommodate a maximum number of humans then what for the married couples. lm sorry but lm confused none of it makes any sense.
  • prologos
    prologos
    wt has stated, in so many, other words, that reversing the effects of the menopause is not part of the road to perfection in paradise. Perfect sex would be just for the fun of it, procreation will not have anything to do with it any more, naturally. Not fit to print, so they only gave it a hint.
  • cofty
    cofty

    Stop worrying about a work of fiction.

    There are so many real things you could be learning about and fun things you could be doing.

  • Hadriel
    Hadriel

    @atomant you make the assumption there's such a thing as paradise Earth. However this does not exist in the bible. Only paradise of heaven is discussed.

    Sadly many witnesses assume that "paradise earth" is spoken about all over the bible however it simply is not. mention it to them and they are stunned to find that this is the case.

    So before we start considering that the Earth would be overfilled you have to first show me where in the bible this is even eluded to.

    If there's a hope does it matter what it is? Earthly or Heavenly? Or is simply not dying or having life again more important?

  • Wild_Thing
    Wild_Thing


    It doesn't make sense because none of it is true.

    ALL living things were meant to procreate, live a certain life span, deteriorate and die. It's the whole Lion King circle of life thing.

    I never understood why when Adam and Eve supposedly sinned by eating an apple and Jehoho took away their perfect and never ending life for it (talk about over-reacting, Dad!), that he in turn decided to impose the same sentence on every living creature and thing that ever existed. It's kind of ridiculous when you think about it.

    There is not one single thing in the entire Universe that lasts forever, and there never has been. Not a star, not a planet, not a tree, not a creature, or human.

    And personally, there is nothing scarier to me than an entire planet full to the brim with Jehovah's Witnesses who can't have sex. Let's see them dance and sing the Happy song, then.

  • Heaven
    Heaven
    Believing in the Adam and Eve story as literal truth logically follows that one also believes the entire human race is the product of ancient incestuous relationships.
  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel

    Although the Catholic church views the fall of man in the Garden of Eden as a terrible mistake, the Orthodox church sees it as a necessary step in the ladder of progression. When Jesus was resurrected, he became a being of immense power and glory with a perfect body of both flesh and bone (no blood, which is the corruptable part of man). "For a spirit hath not flesh and bone as ye see I have."

    All men, because of the redemptive power of the atonement, are likewise resurrected in the flesh, from the greatest to the least, but Paul tells us that that not all will be raised to the same glory, for as heavenly bodies differ from earthly bodies, and as the sun, moon and stars differ from one another in glory, "so also is the resurrection." (See I Cor. 15) When all are judged, all will resurrected according to that judgment.

    But this is only possible because of the atonement.

    If man had not transgressed in the Garden, he would have remained forever with no glory on the earth or throughout the eternities, forever miserable because he knew no good from evil. To understand happiness he had to know sadness; to know joy, he had to understand sorrow. It was all part of the plan of salvation, but the Lord wanted it to be man's decision. He forbade it, but in the next breath said, nevertheless, it's your decision.

    John said, speaking of the elect, "For when we see him, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is." And since Jesus was resurrected as a perfect being of flesh and bones, man also has that potential.

    Adam and Eve were both terrestrial in nature. Their bodies were not perfect because they contained no glory and no power. They were limited only to this world and if they wanted to go somewhere they had to walk. Knowing neither good nor evil, they lacked the ability to progress and grow. And though it never says, it's also unlikely that they could have reproduced. So they were set up to fall, and it had to be their decision.

    They were put into their environ with a tree, the fruit of which could make their bodies corruptible. Also there was a fallen archangel to tempt them. They also were given time to themselves. In other words, all the elements were there for it to happen. All Adam and Eve had to do was pull the trigger. But the Lord's intentions were to make them like He, Himself, and this is why the fall had to happen.



  • Cold Steel
    Cold Steel
    Wild_ThingĀ» There is not one single thing in the entire Universe that lasts forever, and there never has been. Not a star, not a planet, not a tree, not a creature, or human.

    Nothing that we can detect. Actually, most of the universe is composed of stuff we can't detect.

    Matter lasts forever, and though it can change, it can't be annihilated.

    And personally, there is nothing scarier to me than an entire planet full to the brim with Jehovah's Witnesses who can't have sex. Let's see them dance and sing the Happy song, then.

    Well, the verdict isn't in regarding whether the WTS is the sole purveyor and arbiter of truth in the earth. Based on its history, it was created by men, established by men without any intervention of God. But I tend to agree with the sentiment, though it never specifically says there will be no sex. We only see through a dark, murky glass the things that will be, but they are said to be far beyond the understanding of man.

  • cofty
    cofty
    When Jesus was resurrected, he became a being of immense power and glory with a perfect body of both flesh and bone (no blood) - Coldsteel

    So if he has no blood he won't need a heart or lungs or a liver. Also no blood means no cellular respiration so no eating either. That means he never needs to defecate, so does the resurrected Jesus have an anus?

    No blood also means the resurrected Jesus is impotent.

    Do you see how ridiculous it gets when theists make assertions about reality?

  • cofty
    cofty
    Adam and Eve were both terrestrial in nature

    There was no Adam and Eve. Homo sapiens evolved from non-human ancestors over millions of years.

    Matter lasts forever, and though it can change, it can't be annihilated.

    Bollocks

    You can have your own fairy stories about magic pants but you can't have your own facts.

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