Fruit Having Youth-sustaining Benefits!

by Yadirf 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    This idea of mine, which I quote below, I think is sound. I still stick to it because I think that it clears up a lot of confusion regarding *the two trees* and their purposes for being in the Garden of Eden:

    Aside from the variety of other trees which Jehovah provided for the daily needs of the first human pair, God had placed two especially necessary trees in the "middle of the garden." Needless to say, they both bore seedless fruit.

    Of these two trees Adam & Eve could eat of the one, the "tree of life," but not the other one. The fruit of the tree of life LITERALLY contained what the couple needed in order to live on perpetually. Yes, since they were mortal beings they would FOREVER need to continually eat of this tree, because it contained the essential ingredients necessary to ward off the aging process. For as long as they continued to eat the fruit of THIS tree their bodies would remain young, and thus they would never grow old and die.

    Rather than denying them access to the tree of life, God actually intended for them to partake of it--because he WANTED them to continue living; and that's apparently the reason why we do not read of any prohibition from God against the first human pair eating of the tree of life any time they wished. ONLY IF THEY BECAME DISOBEDIENT would they no longer be allowed to enjoy the healthful, anti-degenerative benefits that come from the fruit of this tree. Genesis 3:22 does not actually mean that Adam & Eve had never before tasted the fruit from the tree of life, as other texts prove such an assumption to be groundless (see Genesis 1:29; 2:9, 16-17; 3:1-3, 11). Now, insofar as the other tree ("the tree of the knowledge of good and bad") its importance lay solely in the fact that it provided a WAY for Adam & Eve to prove themselves worthy of continued life--simply by NOT EATING OF IT, in obedience to their Creator's command. Thus, for as long as they would refrain from eating of the forbidden tree they would be privileged to eat of the tree of life ANYTIME that their bodies required it.

    For more than one good reason, the privilege of life has to be contingent upon one's obedience to God's laws. Yes, it was not necessary that the forbidden tree contain an ingredient that would have a detrimental, age-inducing effect upon Adam and Eve simply because, were they to be cut off from further being allowed to eat of the tree of life (the fruit of which insured youthfulness), that in itself would cause them to begin to age and eventually die.

    After posting this I have to leave for a while, because I'm due to catch up on a "honey do" or two. So, it will be several hours probably before I will be able to check back in on this thread. Perhaps I have said something though that may be a new thought to some who post here, or some serious lurker who doesn't post but merely comes here to read. Or even better yet, it would be especially swell if one of my beloved brothers at Bethel were to by chance read it, see the sensibleness of it, and as a result it eventually became the knowledge of all my brothers around the world.

    Enjoy, and I welcome your comments.

    Friday

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    Edited in order to restore the several apostrophes that I originally had in place, but for some silly reason disappeared once posted. Haven't figured out what makes that happen yet!

    Edited by - Yadirf on 27 August 2002 18:38:47

    Edited by - Yadirf on 27 August 2002 19:11:3

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    Intriguing, I must admit. But it's almost midnight here so will lookback tomorrow.

    Englishman.

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    Don't let the bed bugs bite, Englishman.

    Friday

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  • ballistic
    ballistic

    I like where you're coming from but this part can't be right:

    Now, insofar as the other tree ("the tree of the knowledge of good and bad") its importance lay solely in the fact that it provided a WAY for Adam & Eve to prove themselves worthy of continued life--simply by NOT EATING OF IT

    The tree of the knowledge of good and bad gave them exactly that: knowledge of good and bad. They suddenly saw that they were naked for example. Soley a testing tree or "carrot" could have been a simple apple tree. But this tree actually did something, and is very telling as to the innocence of Adam and Eve prior to eating of it.

  • Undecided
    Undecided

    I see in the picture a sword, I guess God knew that man would need a sword, made from steel, so he could kill one another. God invented it, so I guess he was responsible for war. These stories from the bible are just that, some ancient writers imagination of what happened to start off life.

    Ken P.

  • LDH
    LDH

    And this is all Bible-based. (TM)

    as Farkel would say.....

    Lisa

  • siegswife
    siegswife
    The tree of the knowledge of good and bad gave them exactly that: knowledge of good and bad. They suddenly saw that they were naked for example. Soley a testing tree or "carrot" could have been a simple apple tree. But this tree actually did something, and is very telling as to the innocence of Adam and Eve prior to eating of it.

    I don't think they gained the knowledge of good and bad at all when they ate from the tree.

    In this story, God said that it was 'Good' after He made the 'naked' humans. They were 'good' , but when they ate, they saw their nakedness as bad. To me, that indicates their 'eyes' were closed, rather than opened. They couldn't tell the difference between good and bad anymore.

    I think when they ate they got confused rather than enlightened in any way.

  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    Undecided,

    I see in the picture a sword, I guess God knew that man would need a sword, made from steel, so he could kill one another. God invented it, so I guess he was responsible for war.

    Should we change your handle to "Dirge," Ken P.? No wonder you are depressed, you poor thing.

    Friday

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  • Yadirf
    Yadirf

    Siegswife,

    Adam and Eve covered themselves due to their guilt, which caused them to begin to feel naked in the sight of God because they had done a bad thing. But just why then, you may ask, did they feel the need to cover their genitals? Well, because their genitals had to do with the reproduction of life, that's why! Here they had broken a law of God that had life

    -defeating consequences. Get the point?

    Friday

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    Edited in order to restore the apostrophes , AGAIN.

    Edited by - Yadirf on 27 August 2002 19:48:34

    Edited by - Yadirf on 27 August 2002 19:53:42

  • mevirginia
    mevirginia

    Needless to say, they both bore seedless fruit.

    For as long as they continued to eat the fruit of THIS tree their bodies would remain young, and thus they would never grow old and die.

    Lets say that they never ate from the tree of knowledge and good and bad.

    And continued to become many and filled the earth with perfect humans that would also live forever as long as they ate from this tree of life.

    That seedless tree would have to produce fruit to sustain millions/billions of people from all over the world?

    Or would God create more of these seedless trees?

    The black market value on these seedless fruits alone would be staggering.

    That would be inevitable since Satan would be around to make sure it or something along those lines did happen.

    Edited by - mevirginia on 27 August 2002 19:43:34

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