GrreatTeacher - No problem and thanks for the replies, I'm enjoying the good honest dialogue. Back to the convo, you have been saying what statistics show but didn't provide any sources to back them up and seem to be saying that everything statistically that would effect education, crime, etc, are the same but that blacks are just punished more and discriminated against. I'm going to put statistics here with sources since I highly disagree with what you are saying and this is why I disagree.
First, here is a chart by National Kids Count, an organization for helping the wellbeing of children, that shows the number of children in single parent families then it gives percentages for each by race. http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by#detailed/1/any/false/868,867,133,38,35/10,168,9,12,1,13,185/432,431
As of 2012, 67% of black children are in single parent families and 25% of white children are in single parent families and 17% asian. Why is that? Shouldn't it be equal among all races as you claim crime and employment should be as well? Are whites somehow forcing blacks to not get married and not stay with their families? Now many of the black youth who are always in trouble, not all, but many seem to be from those single parent familys. For example the Kroger mob beating that happened 2 days ago, the 15 year old who was arrested for stomping on a head of the white kroger employee and throwing 20lb pumpkins on his head while unconscious was being raised by his grandmother. She said he had been suspended from school, his father was not having a role in his life, etc. I wonder, does that angry 15 year old black boy hate whites because maybe all the problems from his father and mother not being in his life, etc, are all being blamed on whites somehow? Is it impossible that perhaps one of the reasons that more blacks are in prison than whites statistically is because so many don't have parental figures, they grow up feeling abandoned and angry, and just get into gangs and crime? There is no way such a huge difference in those statistics will not have some sort of impact on the communities children. Anyway this is one of the reasons why I was surprised about the so called studies showing no possible causes other than discrimination for higher incarceration rates, unemployment, etc.
"Blacks are punished more harshly" - Can you give some specific examples? I find it shocking when you hear of young blacks 15, 18, early 20's, that have a police record pages long involving theft, robbery, assaults, and seem to be out a few months later. That detroit case earlier this year when those blacks who almost killed that white man who hit a kid and pulled over to help, he could have got 10+ years, the judge gave him only 1 year and probation. I just don't see any discrimination in punishment and prison time for blacks vs whites. All I see is no matter the color, violent offenders seem to be let out more often and sooner than nonviolent drug only offenses, no matter the race.
Demographics - http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.htmlWhites are 78% of population, blacks are 13 percent and asians are 5.3% A
REAL STATISTICS for 2012- (ACCORDING TO THESE STATISTICS, I SUPPOSE THERE IS A CONSPIRACY TO LET ASIANS FREE OF MOST CRIMES IF ALL ARE EQUAL) here is a chart from FBI for 2012 showing total arrests by race and by offense. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf The percentage by race is shown as a percentage of total crimes committed. So for example Robbery, it shows 80, 135 arrests, 35k were white and 44k were black and about 800 asians, out of all robbery criminals arrested 43% white and 55%black and 1%asian. Now since blacks make up 14% or less of the population, are you saying that this country just ignored a whole bunch of white robbery criminals and gave the black robbery criminals a harder time? Or did robbery victimes say, "o he's white, don't call the police"?
Now robbery was one of the few that blacks surpassed whites because blacks are a minority of the population, many crimes whites have more arrests total, forcible rape arrests 65% of total were white and 32% black and 1.2% asian.
THIS ONE IS REALLY GOOD, it actually goes against the claim about blacks being pulled over more. One of the most arrests out of any category was DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE....981,000 arrests, 84% white, 12%black, 2% asian. So Greateacher, are the police being fair in who they pull over for being drunk, because these numbers closely follow the percentage of popluation, but violent crimes they are letting whites go free and picking on blacks more? If there was true discrimination, shouldn't this be showing 30 to 50% of DUI's by blacks as well?
And asians were heavily discriminated as well, even thrown into concentration camps during WW2. Why do they have even less crime rates than whites? Do whites LOVE asians more than themselves and let them get away with things more?
I remember in school asians were almost picked on for being too smart and studying too much and just because they are asian they are smart. In their culture they put a lot of emphasis on hard work and education so statistically many will be smarter because they worked harder for it.
Taking those in consideration Grreateacher, can you please point out in the chart of total arrests for 2012, which specific crimes,arrests are blacks being picked on when whites should be much higher? And can you explain why in almost every category asians seem to be UNDER their popluation percentage for the crime?
