Why Women Are Treated Second Class In This Organization?

by AvocadoJake 43 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • WTWizard
    WTWizard

    Because the Filthful and Disgraceful Slavebugger, from Boozerford on, are all male chauvinist PIGS. Truth is, all human beings (women included) that are not grossly mentally retarded are capable of independent thinking (and, here "grossly mentally retarded" means not having the intellectual capacity to think on one's own, not being "mentally diseased" or having an arbitrary "disease" that needs prescription drugs to treat). Those with "gross mental retardation" in this case refer to those who are "trainable" and "custodial"--"educable" people are capable of independent thinking, but with extra effort.

    What happens when a segment of people that are capable of thinking on their own are denied that is that they lose opportunities. They lose brain power, and that is showing up in shortages of people that are able to do the work. This happens with racism as well--when someone is discriminated against in any way for reasons not pertinent to capability to produce value, this value is lost. And it is showing up in stifling of ideas when the existing ones are not working.

    These male chauvinist PIGS are preventing badly needed fresh ideas from being implemented in the organization. Women are not being permitted to give real talks, and thus their ideas are squashed. They are thus held captive to their male hounders--even those with good thinking abilities. They are the ones that pious-sneer most of the time. Also, they run households--yet their husbands, who often know nothing of what's going on or are only seeking to dominate at any cost, are the ones that make the decisions. As the husbands so often know less than the wives, both sides end up losing. No opportunity to catch up on that knowledge exists, and the husband cannot get better than the wives (or the wives better than the husbands) in areas where they are weak in.

    I can only hope this results in more stagnation. They are going nowhere now, with the Internet destroying many a call before it becomes a study or studies before they can become publishers. The witlesses are getting discouraged, and their zeal for field circus is nowhere near what it was back in the mid and late 1980s. The more they suppress the women (who probably have ideas that could reduce the stagnation and get them out of being "in irons"), the more they are going to remain "in irons" as they try to "tack" to the next "new light". And I can only hope it results in more embarrassing flub-ups among congregation after congregation.

  • keyser soze
    keyser soze

    Doesn't the bible do a lot to promote this view of women?

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Genesis 3:16 - To the woman he said,

    “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
    with painful labor you will give birth to children.
    Your desire will be for your husband,
    and he will rule over you.”

    According to Genesis man rulling over woman is an unnatural state. You don't place a curse on something that it already has. Husband and wife are designed to be 50/50 partners. If you take God out the mix the ones with the broad shoulders win out.

    -Sab

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    1 Tim 2:12 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

    ^ Paul/Saul had broad shoulders.

    -Sab

  • tec
    tec

    Jesus was not an Equal Opportunity Employer.

    No male, no female, no slave, nor free in God.

    Christ did have female disciples. When the time came for Martha and Mary to either listen or serve the guests, which one did Christ praise for having made the better choice?

    Peace,

    Tammy

  • leavingwt
  • Justitia Themis
    Justitia Themis

    Why are women treated [as] second-class [citizens] in this organization?

    Because they allow it. Women comprise the majority of Jehovah's Witnesses, and therefore, they wield great power. Unfortunately, they do not realize this fact.

    Christ did have female disciples

    Mary Magdalene is called "the apostle to the apostles" by many outside the organization. Jesus didn't choose one of his apostles to report his resurrection; he chose a mere woman, and she reported it to the disciples.

  • james_woods
    james_woods

    Rutherford has been mentioned twice, and he was indeed a mysogynist.

    However, I have always thought that the historic WTBTS domination of women started with Russell and his disagreements with his wife, and later divorce. Maria Russell was a sort of women's rights advocate in her own way, and arguably came up with the "faithful and discrete slave" notion about herself and her husband jointly.

    She was actually an accredited author back in the very early days - and I think the contraversy over her caused later Watchtower leadership to make absolutely sure they never let any woman have any teaching authority again.

  • sabastious
    sabastious

    Yikes, LWT that was a hardcore article. Sounds like a bunch of obsessively zealous men trying to hold onto their power over the females in their society. Spoiled brats. "Modern society", as the article stated, should be imposed upon adults who act like children, imo.

    -Sab

  • designs
    designs

    tec- Would it have hurt Saint Peter to have washed the damn dishes

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