by Sassenach 51 Replies latest jw friends
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Sass you click on the "Use Forum Code in your message" if you can figure out how to use it let me know. I still haven't gotten it.
Does it work? TW, I followed the instructions in the little window. I wrote Quote enclosed by square brackets and copied the remark and then put /Quote, again with the square brackets around it.
The last one I went to was last night. I had the #1 talk.
TR,
My opinions are the closest to yours than any others posted. I would call myself a Christian Agnotic. Christian because I believe that Jesus taught good principles, but I assume other religious leaders who I have not read did as well. Agnostic because I'm not dogmatic enough to be an Atheist. To a whole lot of stuff, I have to say "I don't know." Furthermore, I don't care if I can't figure it out. If there is a God I don't think he cares either. I try to do the best I can, and if there's something beyond this life it will be a nice surprise. I think it is insulting to a Diety to think we can do anything to effect his decisions. I think praying to curry his favor and running around trying to figure out just exactly is the right thing to do is a collassal waste of time and and insult to his intelligence. If he is there and if he cares, well so be it. It not, have a nice day.
I hesitated to post this, and never thought I would go into it, but this seems like a safe place to do so.
Sass,
Re: Does it work?
hey larc,
Agnostic because I'm not dogmatic enough to be an Atheist.
If you cross an agnostic with a Jehovah Witness, you get a fellow who knocks on your door for no particular reason. Blanche Knott
And this does not refer to you - just another man.
You are not an agnostic, Paddy. You are just a fat slob who is too lazy to go to Mass. Conor Cruise O'Brien
Just for fun.
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Hey Weighting,
Hasn't a "fat slog" already "gone to mass"?
carmel sittin on his physics text book
Last meeting for me and my wife was during vacation somewhere in Asia last fall. Lukely, I didn't understand much...:-))
We sent a letter to the elders of our home congregation, told them that we need a break from everything. Since then, there was no contact anymore to the local brothers..
I study many books about evolution, dating methods, history (church history), archeology, bible critic and so on...
Since then, my mind opened up a lot...and we feel free not to rush three times to meetings a week...
Regards
Papist - ok by me. I was catholic before Mom studied with the JW's -
there is a beautiful basillica in
Covington, KY and a modest, but peaceful university chapel a few blocks from my home - I can sit in either one of them in off-hours, appreciate them for their quietness and solitude -
and especially as a retreat when the weather is cold. (Plus, I think they
smell soooo good - love that incense...
so unlike the disinfectant odor of the KH's.)
Larc and I went to a performance of an
Ukranian young-male Choral group at
the bascillica last year - it was so
incredible. I felt so ethereal. Plus, if you are a socializer - always something going - festivals, Monte
Carlo nights, bazzars, ya, know - fun things...and a lot of charitable work,
despite what the WTBTS says (bet it beats their record any day!)
Haven't been in a KH since larc's niece married several years ago - our three children all had beautiful outdoor weddings - any she wouldn't even attend them - ministers of Satan, you know!
Zazu,
Thank you for opening this up. I love you.
My husband was a Catholic. As a lifetime Witness, I have been very sheltered from any other religious ceremonies. (Although when I went to Europe I was in just about every famous cathedral there is)
Next year I want to see what a Catholic Christmas mass is like.
No desire to get involved with org. religion, just want to drink in the beautiful sounds sights and smells.
TW
btw music is incredible in a Cathedral. One of the most moving sounds of music I ever heard was in an Austrian cathedral. I stood there with tears running down my cheeks. It was a young boys choir if I recall.
I remember the first time I was in a Catholic Church. I had never been outside of a Kingdom Hall, with all its beauty.:) I was newly married to what's her name and we went to the wedding of her cousin. It was beautiful inside and the music was glorious. I will never forget the contrast between the Kingdom Hall and the Cathedral.
