interesting email circulating amongst witnesses: gubberning body says preaching reason is..................

by DaCheech 49 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX
    "...main focus in preaching should be on praising God. This is more important than saving people, as Jehovah is more important than humans."

    Well, that makes one feel good, now doesn't it?

    It tends to make the individual feel like they are nothing. Dirt.

    Oh - and by the way - keep door-knocking.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • AWAKE&WATCHING
    AWAKE&WATCHING

    That made me a little sick because I know there was a time I would have lapped it up and talked about it all the way home from the convention.

  • Mad Sweeney
    Mad Sweeney

    I hate how they count on the ignorance of the rank and file when interpreting scripture.

    One of my pet gripes is with the interpretation of "as a witness to all the nations," as meaning that they don't need to witness to all people but rather just in all geographic areas in order to fulfill this scripture. This is wrong. When the Bible was written, nation-states as they presently function in the world didn't even exist. More importantly, the colloquial use of the term "nation" to mean "nation-state" with it's geographic borders and governments wasn't even what the word "nation" meant until recently, historically speaking. A "nation" meant (and still means) a group of people of the same ethnic family, usually speaking the same language.

    So just because there are a handful of dubs in India doesn't mean they've witnessed to 1652 ethnic language groups there.

    I'm in a particularly cynical and grumpy mood today. My wife got love-bombed yesterday and is almost ready to go back now. Ugh.

  • Terry
    Terry

    The Governing Body is forced to take this stance.

    The effectiveness of the so-called "preaching" work (actually distribution of stale ideas and recycled mistakes) has been demonstrated to be embarassing.

    What else can they say?

    They can't persuade people to accept their silly cartoon theology for very long in an era of the Internet where too much proof is availabe to refute their corrupt history.

    They don't love humanity. They have a death wish. The sooner Armageddon comes (and proves them right and everybody wrong) the sooner the party can start!

    It is like having a sick grandfather with lots of money. They can't wait for him to hurry up and die so they can inherit.

    Not one person in a hundred can tell specifics of Watchtower belief. It hasn't been much of a preaching work in explaining anything.

    It is illusory.

    The Governing Body is bankrupt of ideas. There hasn't been anything new for years. It is all backtracking and double-dealing.

    They patch the holes in the dam as it springs leaks.

    What a depressing religion it has become.

    All they need now is a Jim Jones to take over and---it's KOOL AID time!

  • nugget
    nugget

    I have heard this stated before but not quite so bluntly. Unfortunately as has been said some members of the R&F will see this as validation of their efforts in the ministry.

    Now the blinkers are off you see how ridiculous this all is Muslims and others really do not need to hear the message since they are already part of a condemned nation, Christs enemies. Going on the ministry is to fulfill the obligation to make a sacrifice of praise. This being so there is no need to be effective since I am merely working out my own salvation not theirs.

    total trash.

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    JW's are changing before our eyes.

    In decades past, you couldn't be a CO or a missionary unless you helped bring at least one person to the point of baptism. It used to be that the preaching work WAS about saving lives.

    Now, it has taken the place of giving a cow to your local Levitical priest to sacrifice to Jehovah.

    As already alluded to, there is a VERY pragmatic reason for the GB to frame the preaching work this way; its because the door to door work is an activity with diminishing returns.

    So now they must condition their flock to view preaching as a way to show Jehovah how much they care. And you know how Jehovah shows he cares? He doesn't bring Armageddon so that you can REALLY show how much you care.

    Because it at least made a little sense that Armageddon was being delayed so that some "right hearted"™ ones could respond to the preaching.

    So it seems pretty clear that fewer and fewer are responding, and

    It seems pretty clear that JW's have covered the entire earth with their witness, so long as you don't count a couple billion Chinese and Muslim's on two continents, and

    It's just about time for Armageddon, except

    Jehovah now wants to see how much you REALLY care and love him, by preaching to people who have already made up their minds.

    This is real, unadulterated groping in the dark by the GB.

  • dissed
    dissed

    Nancy Drew - A new video-like game invented??

    "Armageddon! "

    - A new video-like game for the Angels where they attempt to shoot down with fireballs, pestilence and sword, as many innocent earthly people as possible. Except in this game, it's real! How cool is that?!

    After receiving 144,000 pts (1 pt = 1 human destroyed) they are awarded special 'Archangel' status.

    Special bonus: Apostates count as ten pts.

    Tip: Families huddled together in fear can be taken out with only one fireball, thus conserving ammunition and adding pts quickly. Look to Catholic nations for lots of points!

    Tip: To avoid confusion and unwanted killings. Look for special 'directors' of the destruction. These are self-rightious JW's (Elders, Pioneers) who will point out those in the JW KH's who should not receive KH shield protection. You will notice them by their flashing-lit book bags', faces with scowls, and large fingers pointed at 'professed JW's' "Get him! Get him!"

    Encouragement: There are billions and billions of innocent people to destroy, but there are also millions of Angels. Don't delay in the start of this EXCITING, once in a lifetime adventure of mass killing and unprecendented destruction. Every second counts! Those who delay may miss out!

    *** Angels are to turn in their field service destruction reports immediately following the Battle to receive proper credit. Please be sure and report accurately animals killed even though no credit is given. (This is for human disposal planning purposes only)

  • AllTimeJeff
    AllTimeJeff

    Something else about preaching and how we are still awaiting Armageddon...

    If Jehovah really cared about me, he would have started Armageddon before apostates got to me. But he didn't. He strung me along.

    Or the other alternative of course, is that Jehovah, like the Governing Body, is a total sham. I bet that is the correct answer....

  • blondie
    blondie

    Not much new and coincides with this written statement in the WT:

    *** w00 1/15 p. 13 par. 17 "Keep on the Watch" ***Fifth, we see a global preaching work being accomplished, which Jesus said would take place just before the end of this system. Jesus stated: "This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) Today, that prophecy is in the course of fulfillment on an unprecedented scale. True, untouched territories still exist, and it may be that in Jehovah’s due time, a large door leading to greater activity will open. (1 Corinthians 16:9) Nevertheless, the Bible does not state that Jehovah will wait until every individual on earth has received a personal witness. Rather, the good news must be preached to Jehovah’s satisfaction. Then the end will come.—Compare Matthew 10:23.

    But then the next paragraph says:

    *** w00 1/15 p. 13 par. 18 "Keep on the Watch" ***Sixth, the number of genuine anointed disciples of Christ is dwindling, though some will evidently still be on earth when the great tribulation begins. Most of the remnant are quite elderly, and over the years the number of those who are truly anointed has been getting smaller.

    And in 1965

    *** w65 9/15 pp. 575-576 Questions From Readers ***

    Since millions of persons in China and other places have never heard the Kingdom message, will these people be preserved through the destruction of Babylon the Great and the war of Armageddon, or perhaps be resurrected later?—H.S., U.S.A.It is important to understand what the Bible says about the destruction to come at the end of this system of things. In his illustration of the sheep and the goats Jesus indicated that a separating work would be done "when the Son of man arrives in his glory," and that persons would be classed as either "sheep" or "goats." (Matt. 25:31-46) In part, the basis for the separation would be the reaction of people to the preaching of the good news of the established kingdom. That preaching work is now being done by Jehovah’s witnesses. Jesus explained that those on earth who favorably responded to that message and treated kindly its bearers would be classed as "sheep" and would enter into "everlasting life." The rest of mankind who did not respond favorably to the preaching work and offered no aid to those who carried the Kingdom message would be classed as "goats" and would go, not into a temporary death, but into "everlasting cutting-off" at the time when judgment is executed.

    But some persons, appreciating that millions of people are to be resurrected and given an opportunity to serve God, wonder if the millions of individuals living today who apparently have never heard the Kingdom message preached will be everlastingly destroyed without ever having had a witness about God’s purposes. It is true that at present it appears that there are vast numbers of mankind who have not heard the Kingdom preaching. Also, from what the Bible says and from conditions in the world, we know that we are in the "last days." But we do not know just how much more will be accomplished in preaching the Kingdom message before the end comes. (2 Tim. 3:1-5; Matt. 24:3-13) If at the end of the second world war someone had said that the Kingdom preaching would be carried out, by more than a million publishers, in over 190 lands, including communistic countries, many might have found that hard to believe. Yet, Jehovah has blessed his people, and that is exactly what is being accomplished. So, if it is Jehovah’s will to have this message personally carried to the millions on earth who seemingly have not yet heard it, that will be accomplished. If he chooses, he could see to it that this message is spread in ways that we cannot yet imagine. Jesus did foretell that "this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matt. 24:14) We can rest assured that God will see that the preaching work is done to his satisfaction. After that "the end" comes.

    Then those who correspond with "goats," whether in China or elsewhere, will be pronounced "cursed" and will not be permitted to survive that "end" into God’s new order of things. Since these go into symbolic "fire" (like the Devil and his angels), their punishment will be everlasting. They will never be resurrected.—Matt. 25:41-46.

    "Just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more; and you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be. But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, and they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."—Ps. 37:10, 11.

  • Gayle
    Gayle

    w51 5/1 pp. 287-288 “The Bible shows a communal responsibility, where a community upholds rulers who persecute Jehovah’s people.”

    The WTS shows a whole community would be destroyed because of their rulers, and this is regardless of the poor people that have no rights in their community. The GB have no problem just dismissing the value of people's lives.

    I think since the WTS sees their growth leveling off, slowing. When they have increase, the end is soon. When it slows, or decreases, the end is soon. No matter. They just care about their headquarters, their own position. They just keep 'whipping' their slaves to keep supporting them.

    Blondie, thank you always for your quick references.

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