When you heard "apostate" who did you imagine? (page 2)

musky

I was a young boy when I heard a woman at the door referred to as an apostate. I was kind of afraid and thought she was Satan's helper.

Tuesday

Danny Haszard, he's pretty much everything I expected an apostate to look like, sound like with the same type of signs.

cattails

There once was this guy, cute guy,

sitting on the trunk of his car with

a guitar singing some religious folk

songs and asking people to come

and talk with him outside the convention

arena in one of the parking areas.

He seemed very nice and his clothes

were casual but not dirty or anything.

He had some pamphlets he was trying

to give to people who got near enough

as they walked to their cars... My mother

said he was "an apostate." I still have

that friendly smiley face in my mind and

thought for the longest time that Satan

must have turned into an angel of light

if the cute guy was "an apostate."

The only images of apostates were the idiots outside the Grand Boasting Session, ranting about being saved (as a witless, I honestly believed that I was already "saved" as long as I stayed in) and about some stupid doctrinal issue (that made little difference, and could not be readily proven to be meaningful from the Bible). Those apostates are actually striking their blows so as to land in the air, because they make almost no difference.

What I would have liked to see is a small group of peacably assembled apostates outside the a$$embly site, with information that would make a difference. There are plenty of things they can choose from--unlike a forum, they only have maybe 2 or 3 seconds to attract attention, and ranting about being saved or that Jesus died on a cross is not going to do much. More people will relate with the pedophile issue or that the organization was a NGO at the UN than will relate to being saved or the cross issue. Or, the blood issue--simply sitting there quietly and calmly, with a poster or two (with a web site) and a supply of flyers, is more likely to do some damage than ranting and raving about being saved, Jesus having died on the cross, or speaking to Russell on the Hell Phone.

OUTLAW

Blondie nailed it!!.............................OUTLAW

I quit!

Bill Cetnar. He was the consummate apostate in my eyes when I was a JW.

C. T. Russell

diamondiiz

People outside conventions with signs.

All I can remember were dates but as under cult mentality I didn't bother to check anything out as I assumed that the dates were not teachings but that some thought these dates represented something. As blondie and someone else pointed out, if you're going to waste your time standing outside a convention have something the JWs can refer to in their own publications or something specific that will make them think without ignoring "useless" dates. Either way most JWs when under mind control will not break free until a circumstancein their life comes along. A way to freedom of mind control is similar to when the cult gets hold of your mind - a weak point in ones life.