WTS comments UN case in Portuguese newspaper

Osarsif

Article in Portuguese newspaper Público (Saturday, October 20, 2001) about the UN case:

Testemunhas de Jeová Ligaram-se à "Besta"
(Jehovah's Witnesses Connected with the "Beast")
http://jornal.publico.pt/2001/10/20/Sociedade/S05.html
http://jornal.publico.pt/2001/10/20/Sociedade/S05CX01.html

Excerpts:

«"The registry as NGO was made only to be able to give humanitarian help and defend the human rights in several countries of the world", said to [the newspaper] Público Pedro Candeias, spokesman of the Association of Jehovah's Witnesses [AJW] in Portugal. In Portugal, however, the disaffiliation from the registry is not yet officially known by the AJW, which represents nearly 50,000 believers.»

«This [JW] official says the religious group to which he belongs has had "an important role" in the help to populations of countries like Angola, Bosnia, Georgia, Rwanda and other African or Latin-American [countries]. "To reach those countries was complicated and, for that reason, it was necessary to registry" the WTBTS in the United Nations. But that registry, he says, does not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses with "any political involvement" with the UNO.»

«"It is not a political maneuver", says the AJW spokesman, "because without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help". And as the registry "does not violate the statutory precepts" of the JW, the criticisms to the registry in the DPI "do not have any basis", says Pedro Candeias.»

[end of newspaper excerpts]

If the criticisms "do not have any basis", and if the registry is so important "to give humanitarian help and defend the human rights in several countries of the world", why has the Watchtower Society hurriedly disaffiliated itself from the United Nations after the case was made known on the Internet?

The JW spokesman lied when he said the registry with the UN does not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses with any political involvement with the United Nations.

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wannahelp

"The JW spokesman lied when he said the registry with the UN does not compromise the Jehovah's Witnesses with any political involvement with the United Nations."

What, you were suddenly expecting them to tell the truth now?

Moxy

the second link is a supplementary article which contains only this quote from the wt96 6/1:

What is that modern-day "disgusting thing"? The evidence points to the League of Nations, which went into operation in 1920, shortly after the world entered its time of the end....
As a successor to the League, the United Nations came into being on October 24, 1945. Later, the popes of Rome hailed the United Nations as "the ultimate hope for harmony and peace" and "the supreme forum of peace and justice." Yes, the League of Nations, along with its successor, the United Nations, truly became an idol, a "disgusting thing" in the sight of God and of his people.

interesting that they threw in the denunciation of the popes there too, in a portuguese newspaper.

mox

patio34

Hi Osarif,

Thanks for that info. It would also be enlightening to the non-JW public if the WTS definition of "humanitarian help" were given. It's not what the average reader would assume, nor, I'll bet, is it the definition given in most dictionaries. It's WT-ese for 'selling the WT and Awake and making converts.'

Pat

pettygrudger

My response to that is quite simple, why would they need any "political organization" - they have God don't they?

JT

, "because without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help".

#########

I'm sure that the paper MISQUOTED THE BROTHER FROM Bethel

the correct quote is :

, "because without the support of the UNO(Jehovah) it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help".

I'm sure that is what he said and was merely misquoted

YEA RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had Enough

without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help

Simple question: Why would it not be possible?

hawkaw

This article does seem interesting.

First the Watchtower has always been classified as a non govenmnetal organization (NGO).

What happened was the WTS VOLUNTARILY became "associated" with a Department in the United Nations.

This Department's goal is to get the "message" of the UN out and not to support humanitarian aid. Part of the criteria is to SUPPORT the UN charter and provide a way to distribute reports and information that support UN programs.

Something the Watchtoer has said in its publications it is completely against.

hawk

MacHislopp

Hello Osarsif,

thanks for the excellent research

and the posting of it on this forum.

As usual ...the true reasons are not given..

anyway IF was such a good thing, for humanitarian

reason ..WHY request the termination of status

as an NGO??? All the others gave also logical

comments...difficult to refute.

Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp

P.S. To give this info' a wider
audience, will you please
post it on the main thread:
"U.N., NGO's and the WTBS ",

Thanks again.

" One who has an accurate knowledge
of God's Word will have no problem
in refuting false religious ideas".

waiting

Sooooooooo,

"without the support of the UNO it would not be possible to distribute humanitarian help"....says Pedro Candeias. (JW spokesman)

The WTBTS will no longer assist in all the aforenamed nations in humanitarian help since they disassociated themselves from the UNO?

Since the only humanitarian help the WTBTS gives is the selling of the Watchtower & Awake! mags & books, does this now mean that they will totally stop distribution in these countries?

It is not a political maneuver. - JW Pedro again

I believe the majority of the charges dealt with fraud, lying, religious hypocrisy.....but not named political maneuvering. Old lesson.......don't defend yourself against charges until they're made. Maybe the opponent hasn't thought of that particular charge yet.

waiting

WTS comments UN case in Portuguese newspaper

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