uh oh

by thebiggestlie 21 Replies latest jw friends

  • thebiggestlie
    thebiggestlie

    well this is kind of funny. And i suppose JWs including my parents with my dad being an elder, will find that this is the result of angelic direction or whatever

    Yesterday i was outside my place of employement and lit up a cigarette. I have been an occasional smoker for 3 or so years. At the very most being a pack every 2 weeks. Well guess who pulls up next to me just as i light the sinful object? Pioneer/elders daughter. She immediately gets out of her car to confront me. I drop the still smoldering object like its the plague and quickly place my left foot over it and whip out a stick of gum before she can get to me. She first just gives me a look and makes some smalltalk and i of course play along acting like she didnt see anything then she gets serious. "Now don't play with me nicholas. When i pulled up did i see something?" she asks sternly. With a deer-in-the-headlights look i quickly respond with "like what? I'm not so sure i'm following what your asking." To combat my blatant lie she inquisitively prods further "...you know im not here to cause any riffs or anything, but when i pulled up you either had a pen or...or something...tell me the truth where you smoking?" SHeepishly trying my hardest to not sound too defensive i say "what? are you serious of course not?" and she says "well whats in your bag?" and points to my messanger bag AKA 'man-purse'. I empty the bag turning it upside down and shake out every last of its contents. (only revealing a lighter to which i explained by saying i often burn incense and light candles) but in my bag i had such smoking devices. SHe then asks me to lift my left foot which i hesitantly do to reveal the almost full cigarette smashed underneath my foot. (oops) After thumbling around for a while trying to explain things i tell her that i must go back to work and didnt have time to talk. SHe walks back to her car and says "well my mistake then.." in a tone that let me know that she knew the real truth of the matter. Fifteen minutes later she comes in to buy a coffee drink at my work (i work at panera bread) and she acts like nothing happened. Well for the rest of the night i was dreading the idea of going home and confronting my parents who i was convinced had inevitably been made aware of the aforementioned situation. I feared the worse and debated all night whether i'd spill the beans or continue to argue for my innocence. Well when i got home nothing was out of the ordinary. which to me meant either they knew and where biding there time or that the elders daughter hadn't yet ratted me out. Well that was yesterday and just fifteen minutes ago i overheard a phone conversation with my father and the girls father discussing some topics from the elders book. I overheard my father mutter something to the effect of "...citation on page #...confronting the guilty...confession....two witnesses". So i do believe i am relatively screwed and at this moment im expecting a lovely meeting with the elders tommorow night following the TMS meeting. So does anyone have any advice as to how i should deal with this. Regardless of the witnesses policies i realise i brought this upon myself to an extent and lying is nothing im proud of, but should i continue to uphold my "innocense" in attempt of gaining safety out of the "two-witness" rule? or should i "come clean" and play the "i'm guilty and feel so bad" card? any advice is welcome.....oh and if everything hits the fan i may tell them how i really feel about the society...who knows...argh

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC

    well this is kind of funny. And i suppose JWs including my parents with my dad being an elder, will find that this is the result of angelic direction or whatever Yesterday i was outside my place of employement and lit up a cigarette. I have been an occasional smoker for 3 or so years. At the very most being a pack every 2 weeks. Well guess who pulls up next to me just as i light the sinful object? Pioneer/elders daughter. She immediately gets out of her car to confront me. I drop the still smoldering object like its the plague and quickly place my left foot over it and whip out a stick of gum before she can get to me. She first just gives me a look and makes some smalltalk and i of course play along acting like she didnt see anything then she gets serious. "Now don't play with me nicholas. When i pulled up did i see something?" she asks sternly. With a deer-in-the-headlights look i quickly respond with "like what? I'm not so sure i'm following what your asking." To combat my blatant lie she inquisitively prods further "...you know im not here to cause any riffs or anything, but when i pulled up you either had a pen or...or something...tell me the truth where you smoking?" SHeepishly trying my hardest to not sound too defensive i say "what? are you serious of course not?" and she says "well whats in your bag?" and points to my messanger bag AKA 'man-purse'. I empty the bag turning it upside down and shake out every last of its contents. (only revealing a lighter to which i explained by saying i often burn incense and light candles) but in my bag i had such smoking devices. SHe then asks me to lift my left foot which i hesitantly do to reveal the almost full cigarette smashed underneath my foot. (oops) After thumbling around for a while trying to explain things i tell her that i must go back to work and didnt have time to talk. SHe walks back to her car and says "well my mistake then.." in a tone that let me know that she knew the real truth of the matter. Fifteen minutes later she comes in to buy a coffee drink at my work (i work at panera bread) and she acts like nothing happened. Well for the rest of the night i was dreading the idea of going home and confronting my parents who i was convinced had inevitably been made aware of the aforementioned situation. I feared the worse and debated all night whether i'd spill the beans or continue to argue for my innocence. Well when i got home nothing was out of the ordinary. which to me meant either they knew and where biding there time or that the elders daughter hadn't yet ratted me out. Well that was yesterday and just fifteen minutes ago i overheard a phone conversation with my father and the girls father discussing some topics from the elders book. I overheard my father mutter something to the effect of "...citation on page #...confronting the guilty...confession....two witnesses". So i do believe i am relatively screwed and at this moment im expecting a lovely meeting with the elders tommorow night following the TMS meeting. So does anyone have any advice as to how i should deal with this. Regardless of the witnesses policies i realise i brought this upon myself to an extent and lying is nothing im proud of, but should i continue to uphold my "innocense" in attempt of gaining safety out of the "two-witness" rule? or should i "come clean" and play the "i'm guilty and feel so bad" card? any advice is welcome.....oh and if everything hits the fan i may tell them how i really feel about the society...who knows...argh Hope you dont mind... now i can read it

  • thebiggestlie
    thebiggestlie

    thanks for fixing my formatting bro...firefox is a blessing and a curse

  • eclipse
    eclipse

    That sister saw squat. Her word against yours. No 2 witnesses, no deal.

    Or

    you could go the semi-honest route and admit to smoking once in a while, and you are sorry and will never do it again, and exclaim that the governing body has it's lips puckered to god's ass and they are spirit directed. ok leave that last part out.

  • ex-nj-jw
    ex-nj-jw

    TBL - first of all i hope you don't mind my having a great big laugh, I really needed it!

    Ok, now - she is the only one who saw this, right? Deny, deny, deny!!! Remember you still need some time, to get things ready for your departure.

    If all else fails and you just can't lie - cry!!! and say I'm sorry I'll never do it again!

    I'm sorry sweetie, I had a rough day - not sure I'm much help today! I'm sure others will be along shortly to give you some real advise!

    nj

  • jaguarbass
    jaguarbass

    I see by your profile that you are an adult.. But your whole situation is so Juvenile. You dont need this kind of playing with your head at 18.

    Did you ever read George Orwells 1984? Your story reminds of that book. Big brother is watching you.

    The only advice I can think of for you is when you are out of school move away and start your life over. Either way it sounds like you got some heavy baggage.

    You're 18 you should be out of school or graduating this year. Move out and into another territory. And drop out from the troof. The Wac Tower is your parents hobby not yours.

    I just read the previous post. Learn to Lie. Deny say you didnt have a cigarette and you werent standing on one and you dont know what that dizzy bitch was talking about. Maybe she's p.m.ing or she wants to have sex with me and I turned her down. That would be turning the table on her, let her squirm.

    Just dont play their game.

  • Mum
    Mum

    How old are you? Do you need to stay on the inside for family? Do you want to remain in good standing? Your strategy depends on such factors as these.

    Be true to yourself. Take notes. Tape the meeting if necessary. Be sure you do not smell of cigarette smoke. Check your breath above all - it's a dead giveaway to non-smokers.

    Good luck,

    SandraC

  • prophecor
    prophecor

    Tell them all to F' Off!!!

  • MinisterAmos
    MinisterAmos

    Damn Bud but you REALLY need to Man Up a bit!

    I think the proper resonse to the confrontation would have been "what do you want, SISTER? Remember that any baptised MALE of the organisation is above any FEMALE; even PIONEERS and even Elder's daughters"

    Now use the two person rule and deny it forcefully, say the Sister wanted you to commit porneia with her, you refused and now she wants revenge.

    So got any huevos partner?

  • thebiggestlie
    thebiggestlie

    well those are all very good and very valid questions. I personally am in the "truth" only for the family. I will always love my family but i can't be a hypocrite forever and definitely not for the sake of a mind-controlling cult. I dread the idea that my parents unconditional love only extends within the unrealistic confines of an unrealistic religion. I trust that deep down inside my mother will always love despite of my choices although she might not show. Im not entirely sure if i am mentally or physically ready to leave although i doubt i ever will feel completely comfortable with the concept. Fear of the unknown is something everyone must deal with i suppose. I dont have much time at the moment to answer all those questions but i'll be able to later

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