Hi Scully actually i did get that you were being sarcastic when you said "Gods 'perfect' law" with or without an emoticon. I was just briefly paraphrasing what you said. I dont know where your from but trust me most Brits will get sarcasm when they see it! And to Lilly hi and i understood and agreed with with what you said previously about that thats why i posted in your defence. Did i somehow imply i didnt? I wasnt saying i thought God was punishing an incoent rape victim. That was only my 2nd post and i managed to get both of you misunderstanding me. Thats the trouble with words that are simply written down as opposed to speaking them as they can so easily be misunderstood. Sorry to the OP (pennycandy) for my posts as they are not answering the question asked but im sure you will forgive me if only this once.