Someone please explain!!

by noni1974 24 Replies latest jw friends

  • noni1974
    noni1974

    What is pornea??I've heard this term before and I never knew exactly what it meant.Why is it diffrant than fornication??Why when people go to JC do they have to find out if it's been committed??Is it worse to commit fornication or pornea?Can you do one without the other??

    I was born and rasied a JW.I DA ed in 97 and I never had a JC.I never even spoke to the elders about anything except to say hi.I've heard this term a lot.On here and at the meetings but I don't remeber now what it is or what you have to do to be DF ed for it.

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    Its anything you do thats both naughty and pleasurable but cannot be described as adultery or fornication.

    So rubbing your bits or rubbing someone elses bits, kissing, licking nibbling or otherwise pleasuring yourself or anyone else in any possible way you can think of that is not technically adultery or fornication. If you enjoy it, sitting on the waching machine when its on spin cycle is pornea. If you dont enjoy it, then you are just doing the washing.

  • noni1974
    noni1974

    Oh I think I should have had a JC then!!!!

  • purplesofa
    purplesofa
    If you enjoy it, sitting on the waching machine when its on spin cycle is pornea. If you dont enjoy it, then you are just doing the washing.

    The next time mine goes out of balance on the spin cycle I will have to remember this!!!

  • blondie
    blondie

    Porneia is a term the WTS uses for a larger group sexual behaviors that are considered df'able. Fornication is one of those behaviors in the larger group called "porneia."

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    The Greek word por·nei´a, translated "fornication," has a fairly broad meaning. It relates to sexual relations involving persons not married to each other and focuses on the misuse of the sexual organs. Por·nei´a includes such acts as oral sex, anal sex, and masturbating another person—conduct commonly associated with houses of prostitution.

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    w0011/1p.8par.6AGodlyViewofMoralCleanness***

    What is meant by the word "fornication"? It comes from the Greek word por·nei´a, which is sometimes used to apply to sexual relations between unmarried people. (1 Corinthians 6:9) Elsewhere, such as at Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9, the term is broader in meaning and refers additionally to adultery, incest, and bestiality. Other sexual practices between individuals not married to each other, such as oral and anal sex and the sexual manipulation of another person’s genitalia, can also be designated as por·nei´a. All such practices are condemned—either explicitly or by implication—in God’s Word.—Leviticus 20:10, 13, 15, 16; Romans 1:24, 26, 27, 32.

  • Amazing
    Amazing

    Hi noni1974,

    When I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s, fornication (pornea or porn) was defined as having sex with another person when one is not married, and adultery was having sex with someone other than your marriage mate. Technically, however, the Greeks, Jews, and later on Muslims and other ancient cultures found ways to make almost any sexual stimulation an act of fornication, whether done with oneself, another human (whether heterosexual or homosexual) or with an animal.

    Jim Whitney

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    Thanks Blondie - I must admit I sacrificed accuracy for comedy value! I still stand by the spin cycle tho (hahahahha wasnt that a great pun!)

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    Various meanings of porneia by translation:

    Bible Basic EnglishLoss of virtue
    Common EnglishTerrible sexual sin
    King JamesFornication
    Strong's DictionaryHarlotry (including adultery and incest); figuratively idolatry
    Young's LiteralWhoredom
    Literal Translation

    Fornication

    Just wondering what a terrible sexual sin might be? I don't remember any I committed being all that bad...

  • noni1974
    noni1974

    Is masterbation porniea or not???

  • katiekitten
    katiekitten

    A terrible sexual sin is where you have sex with your partner over a period of, say, a couple of months and you never have a single orgasm. He has committed a terrible sexual sin and you can get him executed for it.

    Or is it excommunicated, cant remember.

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