DID YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH ELDERS IN YOUR CONGREGATIONS?

by badboy 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    The elders in my cong. were ok till I was molested, at which point they gave me the second degree (did I scream?) Jesus Christ!

    One of the best elders I ever knew was an elder at whose home we had a youth WT study. At the 1975 study (remember in the early 80's when they did the study about the 1975 expectations?) he told us all his own plans to 'beat the system.' He told us how convinced *He* was that 1975 would be the end. He actually did some kind of sleezy things, but i don't remember the details-it was one of those 'the worldly people are all gonna be destroyed in armageddon anyway' kind of attitudes that prompted his rather unethical behavior. In any case, he was very honest, let it all hang out and told us frankly his impressions of the time. Now, we were all teenagers and had a pretty good memory of those days too-only most of our expectations were nightmarish and frightening. I was 9 in 1975. So my problem is with all the other elders who thought he was out of line for being honest. And the fact that he stepped down and then moved out of the area soon after-though he had been in the same house for over 20 years and had businesses in the area-told me that he was run out of the congregation. I don't know what ever happened to him, but he sure got me thinking. I love that guy. The youth WT studies on Sat. nights ended a couple of weeks later. Which worked for me, I spent more time with my worldly friends since us JWs were not supposed to discuss spiritual things anymore.

  • XBEHERE
    XBEHERE

    Yes and still do.

    Ambition, pride, lack of love, lying or holding back information. The elder arrangement is such a sham

  • Ironhead
    Ironhead

    I've served in 3 different congregations. In my first congregation, all but one elder in that cong was great. Really genuine loving brothers. Practiced what they preached. The second cong, P.O. was a haughty bully boy. Many moved out because of him, it was in that hall when my problems began. Last congregation, one elder, who wanted to get into my wife's knickers, spread nasty rumours about me, BOE believed them until the truth came out. Yet that jerk is still an elder. I can't wait to tell you all about this, but since my wife's family is still in the org, I'm not saying much at the moment until she approves.

  • badboy
    badboy

    THANKS EVERYON FOR YOUR REPLIES!

  • lisavegas420
    lisavegas420

    Quandry, What the hell is this all about?

    No problems when the father of another girl told us that the same elders wanted to examine samples of his fifteen year old daughter's panties.

    What were they going to do with them? Were they doctors? Were they going to sniff them? I just don't get this at all!!!!

    lisa

  • badboy
    badboy

    SOMEONE SHOULD INFORM THE ELDERS THAT IT IS PC INCORRECT TO DO THIS!

  • XJW4EVR
    XJW4EVR

    I never had problems with elders as a whole, but I had problems with individual elders.

    One was the father of my "best friend" growing up. My "best friend" got involved with a worldly girl (who happened to not be latina), and when I moved out to LA, he and her came out with me. They weren't married then. When he went home from that trip, he got an attack of conscience, and spilled the beans. on him, her and me (that I smoke, cuss, yadda, blah, etc.). He got publicly reproved, and I told the local PO of the Cong. I barely attended in L.A.

    Well, I got married, and my, now ex-wife, and I moved back to NM. I was getting fast tracked, I was a regular auxillary pioneer, had a numbe of studies, and was doing everything I was supposed to do. So my name got brought up for appointment to become a MS. My "best friend's" dad nixed it (I guess the Service Overseer can do that). My dad, though being the P.O. and having the juice to get it overridden didn't do it. Something I deeply respect him for now (after reading all the nepotism that occurs in the KHs), though I hated him for not doing it then. After that I never respected anything he did or said.

    The other was the PO at the last cong. I attended. He came over with another elder, and he attempted the third degree on me (I was beginning my fade at this point). I told him that his behavior was not tolerable in my home, and that if he insisted on acting in such a boorish manner I would demand that he leave my home. He persisted, and I got up, opened my front door, and asked him to leave. Just him, mind you, the other elder, I requested stay since he was treating me with respect.

    Those are the only two elders I have had trouble with.

  • Forscher
    Forscher

    Did I have problems with elders?
    I've posted all over the place about problems I had with elders! In almost every congregation I've been in, though there were two exceptions, I had loads of problems with elders. The ones in the first congregation were nothing but jerks and one even made it his mission to run me out of the organization or find some reason he could use to get me DF'd. For many years I walked the strait and narrow better than anybody else to make sure he couldn't have the satisfaction.
    After I moved out of that town, I found out that the elders used the old boy's network to "warn" the bodies of elders in every other congregation I went to that I was "trouble." That really made things grand! I found that out when the PO of the next to the last congregation I moved to mentioned a call he'd recieved from them and informed me of the gist of the message.
    I reckon that's why I am sometimes so abrasive. There's alot of repressed anger with Herr Forscher!!!!
    Forscher

  • Quandry
    Quandry

    What indeed would the elders want to do with a fifteen year old girl's underwear? The prospect is just too sick to think about.

    What it amounts to is that these men felt that they had ultimate power. There was nothing beyond the scope of their questions or realm. They were the ones in complete control. They would determine if the panties were proper wear under the clothes of a fifteen year old. Their purpose was to humiliate and demean.

    The chairman of the JC made the statement to this girl's father that "little girl's sleepovers are lesbian training grounds." This man obviously had no respect for women and viewed them as sex objects and dirt.

    The panties were not brought in for these men to handle.

    I know this account seems incredulous. Truth is stranger than fiction in the Borg.

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