Comments You Will Not Hear at the 7-30-06 WT Study (REMINDERS FOND)

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  • blondie
    blondie

    Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-30-06 WT Study (June 15, 2006 issue date, pages 25-29 )(REMINDERS FOND OF)

    Review comments will be in redWT material from today's WT will be in black
    Quotes from other sources will be in quotes boxes
    w = Watchtower
    g = Awake
    jv = Proclaimers book

    www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible (various Bible translations online)
    www.reexamine.org (WT publications online)
    www.silentlambs.org (child abuse)
    www.ajwrb.org (blood issue)
    http://www.randytv.com/secret/unitednations.htm (United Nations issue)

    "YOUR REMINDERS ARE WHAT I AM FOND OF"

    'All the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction."-ROMANS 15:4.

    Opening Comments

    BTW, the title is from Psalm 119:24 not Romans 15:4. Romans 15:4 is an NT scripture about OT examples.

    Can you "remember" how often the WTS says that repetitious meetings are not bad? How they are "reminders" from God and we should be "fond of" them? Or that we eat the same foods and meals over and over? Do you like macaroni and cheese...I do...certain recipes anyway. But I don't want it once a day or even once a week. What if you had cheddar cheese sandwiches every day for lunch? Or baked beans every night for dinner?

    *** w04 12/1 p. 16 par. 18 Walk in the Way of Integrity ***

    In addition, we have our annual conventions, circuit assemblies, and special assembly days. Jehovah's "reminders" are discussed at such meetings. If we learn to "love them exceedingly," we will be eager to attend meetings and we will be attentive while there. (Psalm 119:167)

    Or what should we do if humans put their laws above God's?

    *** w05 4/15 p. 12 par. 9 Trust in Jehovah's Word ***

    We may be fond of God's reminders, but what if "princes" speak against us for some reason? (Psalm 119:23, 24) Today, people in authority often try to force us to put human laws above the law of God. When there is a conflict between the demands of man and the will of God, what will we do? Our fondness for God's word will help us to remain faithful to Jehovah. Like Jesus Christ's persecuted apostles, we will say: "We must obey God as ruler rather than men."-Acts 5:29.

    So what if the elders, COs, DOs, FDS/GB, try to force us to put WT regulations above the law of God. "When there is a conflict between the demands of man" elders, COs, DOs, FDS/GB and the will of God, what will we do? Will we obey God as ruler rathern than men?

    START OF ARTICLE

    Q1) How does Jehovah give us reminders, and why do we need them?

    1) Jehovah provides his people with reminders in order to help them deal with the pressures of these difficult times. Some of these reminders come to the fore during personal Bible reading, while others take the form of information or comments presented at Christian meetings. Much of what we read or hear on these occasions is not new to us. Likely, we have considered similar information before. Since we are inclined to forget, though, we continually need to refresh our memories with regard to Jehovah's purposes, laws, and instructions. We should appreciate God's reminders. They renew our spirit by helping us to keep in focus the reasons that motivated us to adopt a godly life course. Thus, the psalmist sang to Jehovah: "Your reminders are what I am fond of."-Psalm 119:24.

    his people--only JWs

    Christian meetings--only JW meetings

    Not new to us...similar information...inclined to forget...refresh our memories...

    In fact, the WTS can cut and paste from previous articles. The only changes are "adjustments" and "refinements" and "clarifications" in doctrine from the holy spirit. Evidently, either the holy spirit is sending confusing messages or the FDS receivers are faulty.

    We should appreciate--and if we don't????????????

    Q2, 3) (a) Why did Jehovah preserve down to our day the life stories of Bible characters? (b) Which episodes from the Scriptures will be considered in this article?

    2) Though penned many centuries ago, God's Word is dynamic. (Hebrews 4:12) It presents us with true accounts of the lives of Bible characters. While customs and points of view have changed much since Bible times, the challenges we have to face are often similar to those faced back then. Many stories preserved for our benefit in the Bible offer us touching examples of people who loved Jehovah and served him faithfully despite adverse circumstances. Other accounts call attention to the kind of conduct that God hates. Jehovah had all these personal histories, good and bad, included in the Bible as reminders. It is as the apostle Paul wrote: "All the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope."-Romans 15:4.

    loved Jehovah--where's Jesus

    King Saul removed as king but after committing adultery and murder, David remained as king.

    Ananias and Sapphira and Peter's denial of Christ 3 times (and later shunning of Gentile Christians)

    Think of Joseph and his brother Judah and both having sexual morality issues.

    3) Let us focus on three episodes from the Scriptures: the account of David's dealings with Saul, that of Ananias and Sapphira, and that of Joseph's conduct with Potiphar's wife. Each of these teaches us valuable lessons.

    2 OT and 1 NT example

    Loyalty to God's Arrangements

    Q4, 5) (a) What situation existed involving King Saul and David? (b) How did David react to Saul's animosity?

    4) King Saul proved unfaithful to Jehovah and unworthy to rule over His people. So God rejected him and directed the prophet Samuel to anoint David as the future king of Israel. When David showed prowess as a warrior and received acclaim from the people, Saul began to view David as a rival. Saul repeatedly tried to do away with him. David survived on each occasion because Jehovah was with him.-1 Samuel 18:6-12, 25; 19: 10,11.

    Loyalty to God's Arrangements = Loyalty to WTS organization

    King Saul proved unfaithful to Jehovah and unworthy to rule...so God rejected him

    Why didn't God reject David when he committed adultery and murder?

    While David did not kill his rivals, he allowed others to do it.

    Does the WTS = God's anointed = King Saul? What happened to Saul? "God rejected him."

    5) For years, David was forced to live as a fugitive. When the opportunity arose to kill Saul, David's companions urged him to do so, saying that Jehovah was giving David's enemy into his hand. Yet, David refused. His loyalty to Jehovah and his respect for Saul's position as anointed king of God's people moved him to act this way. Jehovah had appointed Saul as king of Israel, had he not? Jehovah would also remove him when he saw fit to do so. David reasoned that it was not his business to intervene. After doing all that he could under the circumstances to soften Saul's antagonism toward him, David concluded: "Jehovah himself will deal him a blow; or his day will come and he will have to die, or down into battle he will go, and he will certainly be swept away. It is unthinkable, on my part, from Jehovah's standpoint, to thrust my hand out against the anointed of Jehovah! "-1 Samuel 24:315; 26:7-20.

    Blurb on page 26: Why did David refuse to allow Saul to be killed?

    David...to kill Saul...David refused...respect for Saul's position as anointed king...Jehovah would...remove him when he saw fit to do so...not his business to intervene.

    Yet David did not imitate Saul's actions or convince others that Saul was right and they should imitate Saul.

    WTS = Saul = rejected by God. Will God soon reject the WTS as being unfaithful to God?

    Q6) Why is the story of David and Saul of interest to us?

    6) This account contains a vital lesson. Have you ever found yourself asking why certain problems arise in the Christian congregation? It could be that an individual is acting in a way that is not appropriate. His conduct may not amount to gross wrong doing, but it disturbs you. How should you react? Out of Christian interest in that person and out of loyalty to. Jehovah, you may choose to speak with him in a kindly way, with the aim of winning him over. What, though, if the problem persists? After you have done all that you reasonably can, you may want to leave the matter in Jehovah's hands. That is what David did.

    WTS application:

    An individual is acting in a way that is not appropriate

    Is this individual the anointed of God like Saul?

    His conduct may not amount to gross wrongdoing

    Was Saul rejected and killed for conduct that did not amount to gross wrongdoing?

    Were Saul's actions towards David (trying to kill him) something he should just leave in God's hands?

    Are they saying then that JWs should not report JW criminals to the authorities; that if they commit fraud, sexual abuse, murder, etc., you should do nothing?

    Q7) In imitation of David, how should we react if we experience injustice or prejudice?

    7) Or you might be facing problems of social injustice or religious prejudice.
    Possibly there is little or nothing you can do about them at this time. Such a
    situation can be very difficult to endure, but David's reaction to injustice
    teaches us a lesson. The psalms David wrote are a poignant record not only of his heartfelt prayers for God to keep him out of Saul's clutches but also of his loyalty to Jehovah and his concern for the glorification of God's name. (Psalm 18:1-6, 25-27, 30-32, 48-50; 57:1-11) David remained loyal to Jehovah even though Saul continued to act in an unjust way for years. We too should remain faithful to Jehovah and to his organization regardless of injustices we suffer and regardless of what others do. We can rest assured that Jehovah is fully aware of the situation.--Psalm 86:2.

    Social injustice or religious predjudice...possibly there is little or nothing you can do about them

    No governmental agencies, no law enforcement, no courts, etc.

    Is that what the WTS just does, or do they fight for their "rights" in court?

    regardless of injustices we suffer--what if the injustices center or originate in God's so-called organization, the WTS.

    Q8) How did Jehovah's Witnesses in Mozambique react when their loyalty to Jehovah was put to the test?

    8) Christians in Mozambique provide a modern-day example of some who loyally stuck to Jehovah in a time of testing. In 1984 their villages were repeatedly raided by armed members of a resistance movement, who robbed, burned houses, and killed. There seemed little that these true Christians could do to defend themselves. The inhabitants of the area were subjected to efforts to recruit them into a militarized movement or to force them to support it in other ways. Jehovah's Witnesses considered doing so to be incompatible with their position of Christian neutrality. Their refusal was met with rage. As many as 30 Witnesses were killed in that turbulent period, but not even the threat of death could break the loyalty of God's people.* (Footnote: *See the 1996 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, pages 160-2.) Like David, they endured injustices but eventually came off victorious.

    Blurb on page 27: What do we learn from the account of Ananias and Sapphira?

    Christians...true Christians...Jehovah's Witnesses--God's people--only JWs

    little that these...could do to defend themselves--unless they were being raped and then if they did not defend themselves they would be disfellowshipped.

    efforts to recruit them into a militarized movement or to force them to support it in other ways...incompatible with their position of Christian neutrality

    But the WTS could associate themselves with the UN as a non-governmental organization, supporting the UN charter for 10 years until it was discovered and made public.

    Also, while only 30 JWs died, how many non-JWs died for also refusing? Hmmmm..........

    A Warning Reminder

    Q9, 10) (a) How can we benefit from certain Scriptural examples? (b) What was wrong with Ananias and Sapphira's actions?

    9) Some of the individuals mentioned in the Scriptures provide warning reminders about conduct to be avoided. Indeed, the Bible contains many accounts of people, even among God's servants, who did wrong and suffered the consequences. (1 Corinthians 10:11) One such account is that of Ananias and Sapphira, a married couple who were members of the first-century Christian congregation in Jerusalem.

    God's servants--only JWs

    Were Ananias and Sapphira Jehovah's Witnesses or witnesses of Jesus (Acts 1:8)?

    10) After Pentecost 33 C.E., the need arose to provide materially for new
    believers who remained in Jerusalem to benefit from association with the
    apostles. Some members of the congregation sold property to ensure that no one was in need. (Acts 2:41-45) Ananias and Sapphira sold a field and brought only part of the proceeds to the apostles, claiming that their gift represented all the funds received from the sale. Granted, Ananias and Sapphira were entitled to give as much or as little as they wanted, but their motive was bad, and their actions were dishonest. They wanted to make a good impression and appear to be doing more than they actually were. The apostle Peter, under the inspiration of holy spirit, unmasked their dishonesty and hypocrisy, and Jehovah struck them dead.-Acts 5:1-10.

    their motive was bad, and their actions were dishonest...they wanted to make a good impression

    Can you see this in the case of the WTS association with the UN, or their saying they consistently taught that Christ's presence was in 1914 when they taught until 1943 that it was in 1874.

    http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/lies.html

    Can you think of other cases of dishonesty and hypocrisy by the WTS?

    How about the correction in the Reveleation book no longer saying that Rutherford was exonerated but the the charges were dropped because of the truthful research on the internet?

    http://www.freeminds.org/history/exonerated.htm

    So if Ananias and Sapphira were worthy of eternal destruction what about the WTS for its fraud and dishonesty?

    Q11, 12) (a) What are some reminders about honesty? (b) What benefits come from being honest?

    11) If we are ever tempted to distort the truth in an attempt to make people think well of us, may the story of Ananias and Sapphira stand as a sober reminder. We might be able to deceive fellow humans, but we cannot fool Jehovah. (Hebrews 4:13) Time and again the Scriptures exhort us to be honest with one another, for liars will have no place in an earth swept clean of unrighteousness. (Proverbs 14:2; Revelation :21:8; 22:15) The reason for that should be clear. The promoter of all untruth is none other than Satan the Devil. John 8:44.

    if we are ever tempted to distort the truth in attempt to make people think well of us........might be able to deceive fellow humans, but we cannot fool Jehovah

    Do you think the WTS thinks they are fooling God? Since the WTS thinks that what they teaches is from God, than the WTS = God.

    Liars will have no place in an earth

    That means than the WTS will be swept away with all the other unrighteousness.

    12) Making honesty our way of life brings numerous benefits. Among them are a clean conscience and the satisfaction of being trusted by others. In many cases, because they were honest, Christians have obtained employment or have kept their jobs. The most important benefit, though, is that honesty wins us the friendship of Almighty God.-Psalm 15:1,2.

    Blurb on page 28: What caused Joseph to reject immoral advances?

    Because the WTS does not make "honesty" their "way of life" they do not have the satisfaction of being trusted by others.

    Christians--only JWs

    Can you think of a JW that was not honest on their job? I can think of 10 off hand...I used to worry that people at work would think I was like them. "Blondie, you're a hard worker, why do they goof off if they are the same religion?"

    Honesty wins us the friendship of Almighty God

    That means that the WTS is not God's friend, and not mine. But where is Jesus?

    Maintaining Chastity

    Q13) In what situation did Joseph find himself, and how did he react?

    13 Joseph, a son of the patriarch Jacob, was sold into slavery at the age of 17. He eventually found himself in the household of Potiphar, an Egyptian court official, where Joseph caught the attention of his master's wife. She desired to have sexual intercourse with Joseph, who was a handsome young man, and day after day she kept urging him: "Lie down with me." Joseph was far from his family in a land where nobody knew him. He may well have been able to have relations with this woman without other people being aware of it. Yet, when Potiphar's wife finally grabbed hold of him, Joseph fled. -Genesis 37:2,18-28; 39:1-12.

    Joseph was far from his family in a land where nobody knew him...may well have been able to have relations...without other people being aware.

    Do you see that this being aimed at young JWs living double lives?

    But remember this, Joseph lived many years before the Mosaic law code was given to the Israelites. There was no written law against adultery or fornication. Yet...

    Q14, 15) (a) Why is Joseph's story of interest to us? (b) Why was one Christian woman grateful that she heeded God's reminders?

    14) Joseph was raised in a God-fearing family, and he understood that sexual relations between people who are not husband and wife are wrong. "How could I commit this great badness and actually sin against God?" he asked. His conclusion was likely guided by knowledge of God's standard for humans as expressed in Eden, that of monogamy. (Genesis 2:24) God's people today can benefit from reflecting on the way Joseph reacted to that situation. In some areas, attitudes toward sexual relations are so casual that youngsters who refuse to get involved in immorality are derided by their peers. Extramarital relations among adults are common. Hence, Joseph's story is a timely reminder for us. God's standard still is that fornication and adultery are sins. (Hebrews 13:4) Many who have succumbed to pressure to engage in illicit sex agree that there is compelling reason not to do so. Among the undesired results may be a
    sense of degradation, a troubled conscience, jealousies, pregnancy, and sexually transmitted disease. Just as the Scriptures remind us, a person who practices fornication is "sinning against his own body."-1 Corinthians 5:9-12; 6:18; Proverbs 6:23-29,32.

    Joseph (and his brother Judah) was raised in a God-fearing family, and he understood that sexual relations between people who are not husband and wife are wrong.

    Likely--meaning the Bible doesn't say this

    What about Judah, did he view sexual relations between people who are not husband and wife to be wrong?

    *** w73 6/15 p. 384 Questions From Readers

    Was it not wrong for Judah to have relations with a woman he thought to be a harlot, as the Bible says that he did?-U.S.A.
    As far as Judah was concerned, he thought he was having relations with a prostitute. In this he was not acting right, for it was God's original purpose for a man to have relations with his wife and not for the earth to be filled with prostitutes. Still, Judah did not sin in the sense of transgressing a specific command of God's law, for the Mosaic law was not given until much later.-Gen. 2:24; compare Leviticus 19:29.

    15) Jenny,* (Footnote: *Name has been changed.) a single Witness of Jehovah, has reason to appreciate God's reminders. At work, a handsome colleague made overtures to her. When Jenny did not reciprocate, he intensified his attentions. "I found myself struggling to remain chaste," she admits, "because it is flattering when someone of the opposite sex takes notice of you." Yet, she realized that the man was only trying to add her to the number of women with whom he had had relations. When she felt herself weakening in her resolve to resist, she supplicated Jehovah to help her remain faithful to Him. Jenny found that the things she learned as she did research in the Bible and Christian publications were like reminders that served as a shot in the arm to keep her guard up. One of those reminders was the story of Joseph and Potiphar's wife. "As long as I keep reminding myself about how much I love Jehovah," she concludes, "I need not fear that I will commit this great badness and sin against him."

    "she realized that the man was only trying to add her to the number of women with whom he had relations"

    It is so hard for the WTS writers to say "sex." This also implies there are no non-JW men who are looking for long-term relationships and that all JW men never have selfish motives. I can remember one brother who was dating 5 women in 5 circuits, that's when I first learned what the word "player" meant.

    Christian publications--WTS publications

    Heed God's Reminders!

    Q16) How can we benefit from reviewing and meditating on the lives of individuals mentioned in the Bible?

    16 We can all increase our appreciation for Jehovah's standards by striving to understand why he had certain accounts preserved in the Scriptures for us. What do they teach? What qualities or tendencies exemplified by Bible characters do we need to imitate or to avoid? Literally hundreds of individuals make their appearance in the pages of God's Word. All who love divine instruction would do well to cultivate an appetite for life-giving wisdom, including lessons we can learn from the examples that Jehovah has carefully preserved. This magazine has often featured articles about such individuals whose stories have something to teach us. Why not spend time reviewing these?

    Rather than reviewing the WT publications, why not review the Bible.

    All who love divine instruction--as filtered through the WTS

    Q17) How do you feel about Jehovah's reminders, and why?

    17 How grateful we can be for the loving concern that Jehovah manifests for those who are striving to do his will! We are by no means perfect, just as the men and women mentioned in the Bible were not perfect. However, the written record of their actions is an invaluable resource for us. By heeding Jehovah's reminders, we can avoid making costly mistakes, and we can imitate the fine examples of those who walked in the ways of righteousness. If we do so, we will be able to sing with the psalmist: "Happy are those observing [Jehovah's] reminders; with all the heart they keep searching for him. My soul has kept your reminders, and I love them exceedingly."-Psalm 119:2,167.

    We are by no means perfect--but some JWs are more perfect than others. Why is it when elders and their families make the same mistake as the rank and file that the elders are excused as "being imperfect" and the rank and file are disfellowshipped?

    Reminds me of Saul's dying and David's living after committing adultery and murder.

    How Would You Answer?

    - What can we learn from David's attitude toward Saul?
    - The account of Ananias and Sapphira teaches us what?
    - Why is Joseph's life story of particular interest today?

    Concluding Comments

    Reviewing these articles reminds me why I no longer associate with the WTS. While like David, I do not intend to physically destroy them, I will no longer be part of their lies, conveying them to others as truth. Will God then destroy them as he destroyed Saul?

    We are eating beans like crazy from the garden; our tomatoes and cucumbers are starting to ripen. The vendors have started selling local sweet corn but it's up 50 cents a dozen due to the increase in the price of gas. It's worth it though.

    When life seems crazy, stay in touch with nature.

    Love, Blondie

  • serendipity
    serendipity

    At least there's no blatant FDS worship in this article.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Yes, Serendipidity, I think the WTS was cleaning out the leftovers from the fridge and tried to make a coherent dish out of it. I think it's time for the garbage.

    Blondie

  • fullofdoubtnow
    fullofdoubtnow

    Thanks again Blondie, another fine review. I think I miss the wt study less than any other aspect of being a jw, but seeing it on here I can view it objectively. I wouldn't mind being there to comment on this paragraph though:

    Christians in Mozambique provide a modern-day example of some who loyally stuck to Jehovah in a time of testing. In 1984 their villages were repeatedly raided by armed members of a resistance movement, who robbed, burned houses, and killed. There seemed little that these true Christians could do to defend themselves. The inhabitants of the area were subjected to efforts to recruit them into a militarized movement or to force them to support it in other ways. Jehovah's Witnesses considered doing so to be incompatible with their position of Christian neutrality. Their refusal was met with rage. As many as 30 Witnesses were killed in that turbulent period, but not even the threat of death could break the loyalty of God's people

    I wouldn't mind comparing their example with the Mexican jws who were allowed to bribe their way out of army service, although I doubt many outside the gb know about that anyway, so there would probably be a room full of blank faces. I doubt if anyone at my old cong has read Crisis of Conscience.

  • parakeet
    parakeet

    Appreciating Jehovah's reminders -- For me, it was like getting hit with the same 2x4 over and over again, with the cong chanting, "you WILL believe, you WILL believe."
    Until 2 months ago, I had not read a WT since the late 70s. I'm amazed that they still sound exactly the same. Same writing style, same scriptures, same mind-numbing drivel.

  • heathen
    heathen

    At least they didn't mention masturbation either >LOL They forgot to mention that jesus was the onlyperfect person in the bible.

  • HadEnuf
    HadEnuf

    for liars will have no place in an earth swept clean of unrighteousness

    Oh look...there won't be many elders, MS's, CO's, DO's, Governing Body members and many, MANY JW's on that new earth. Hmmmmm...Now there's some food for thought!

    cathy l.

  • tremoka
    tremoka

    Blondie,

    Likewise, my garden has been my escape. :) This is my 1st year growing corn and it's been fun watching it grow with the kids. Although inactive for some time now, it is only recently that I've really been challenging the WTS. It's stressfull! My garden brings much needed relief.

  • Inquisitor
    Inquisitor

    Excellent job Blondie. I especially liked your repartee for the Joseph-Potiphar's wife moral lesson with the account of Judah's solicitation. If Judah did not transgress due to the absence of a written moral code as the Watchtower claimed, then by the same logic, Joseph could have had sex with Potiphar's wife and not done anything morally wrong either. Following from that, if having sex with Potiphar's wife wouldn't have been morally wrong, then choosing not to do so would have had no significance whatsoever. It would have been no more righteous than if Joseph had chosen not to eat dates that day.

    INQ

  • yesidid
    yesidid

    Thank you Blondie, you did a great job, as usual, but there's smoke coming from my ears. Background: What you mentioned about the years the Society has claiming they had been "expecting" Jesus to return in 1914, when of course they were believing and teaching 'till at least 1929 that he had "arrived" in 1874. Can we say a distortion in an attempt to make people think well of them? Now: Paragraph 11 from today's Watchtower study:

    11) "If we are ever tempted to distort the truth in an attempt to make people think well of us, may the story of Ananias and Sapphira stand as a sober reminder. We might be able to deceive fellow humans, but we cannot fool Jehovah. (Hebrews 4:13) Time and again the Scriptures exhort us to be honest with one another, for liars will have no place in an earth swept clean of unrighteousness. (Proverbs 14:2; Revelation :21:8; 22:15) The reason for that should be clear. The promoter of all untruth is none other than Satan the Devil. John 8:44".

    Excuse me, I'll just go an have a cold shower.

    yesidid

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