New Lawsuit: Roe v. Wade for Men (page 5)

Gill

U/D - If there was a laughing face available I would have put one on! Where have all the little peoples gone? (looking around facey thingy)

Krystal

A woman's personal belief regarding abortion does NOT negate a man's responsibility to his unborn child.

Women have a greater amount of choice/influence in these circumstances because they have a GREATER responsibility. It is their body that is going to have the baby. Daddy doesn't wanna pay, guess who is stuck footing the bill?

A woman puts her LIFE on the line to give birth and the father doesn't even want to pull out his wallet and help? Dispicable!

Elsewhere

If a woman tells you it is ok, she is on the pill... wear a condom AND pull out! do whatever it takes!

Sure, I'll do that, if she agrees to use a numbing agent so she can't enjoy the experience either.

Your problem is that you want full control over the entire sexual and reproductive process. That ain't gonna happen baby... sex and reproduction are mutual and so should the choices and responsibilities.

Classic feminist control freak. You want control? Go buy yourself a dildo, it'll do whatever the hell you want and won't ask any questions.

Big Tex

do whatever it takes!

Fair enough. But then the flip side should be true as well. If the man does not want the unplanned (or tricked) pregnancy, and the woman does, shouldn't he have some choice as well? If the woman is putting all responsibility for choice on the man before sex, should he not have a modicum of choice afterward as well?

Why is it so wrong to provide legal rights and protection for both men and women?

Interesting I've asked this question numerous times in this thread and been ignored every time.

Nosferatu

A woman puts her LIFE on the line to give birth and the father doesn't even want to pull out his wallet and help? Dispicable!

Some women also put their life on the line for their own selfish reasons. Women who hear their biological clock ticking will do what it takes to have a baby before it's too late. Women who want to keep a flakey man around will try and trap him by getting pregnant through deception, or insemenation from a disposed condom.

Despicable!

cruzanheart

Why is it so wrong to provide legal rights and protection for both men and women?

See, that's why I married this guy: he's logical. Leave emotion out of it for a moment and realize that what is being talked about IS equal rights -- for men AND women. Women have fought for equal rights for years, so now is not the time to turn around and reject the very thing we have fought for, just because both sexes are involved.

Nina

delilah

Why is it so wrong to provide legal rights and protection for both men and women?

I don't think it's wrong, BigTex. I think it is a necessary thing, these days, when there are women out there who are deliberately getting pregnant , unbeknownst to their partner. If a woman is going to save her partner's love juices in order to impregnate herself,() she does not deserve the right to go after him for any legal support whatsoever.

This is another human life, we are talking about. Not just some kitten or cute little puppy , that can be discarded after the cuteness wears off. It's a baby, that deserves the right to be loved, and nurtured by loving, caring parents. Not by a mother who was sneaky and wanted to trap a man, and not by a man who did not care enough to put on a condom, in order to try to ensure that a pregnancy did not occur.

Birth control does not always work. My daughter's birth is a good example of that. However, it was not an option for me, to either abort, nor give her up for adoption. It was not her fault that she was conceived, so therefore she would not pay the ultimate price for my mistake. I worked, and took care of her myself, and she did not want for anything. My husband is the only real father she has ever known, and she has grown into a wonderful, talented, artistic, young woman,and is working full time. A very happy, productive member of society.....

I told her "father" that I was pregnant, but also told him that I did not need him financially.He still had the option,if he wanted to see his child, he was more than welcome to. I think he saw her 4 times as a child. When she was old enough, she wanted to meet him, and it was arranged. Now, she decides if and when she wants to see him.

In my case, there was no need for any legal action on my part, or his part. Yes, I decided that I was having the baby, and he didn't really have a say. However, he also did not need to support my child, and that's what he was most concerned about. That fact was made very clear from the beginning. I did not seek to get pregnant, it just happened. We remain good friends to this day, and my child did not suffer in any way.

Krystal

Wow! Men! Relax!

This is not a gender war.

I think both men and women should be more responsible.

Here is my opinion:

1) Nobody in this day and age, (especailly after knowing what we know about STD's) should be having unprotected sex. (Unless we are talking about a committed relationship with ONE sexual partner) If you don't want to take the necessary steps to protect yourself (even if it reduces pleasure) they dont whine about the outcome.

2) Responsibility for unborn children starts for both parties at the time of conception.

sex and reproduction are mutual and so should the choices and responsibilities.

IF that statement were true I would agree, but the reality is that women bare the majority of the responsibility and that is why we have the majority of the decision. Ok, you may have to support the child for the rest of your life, but the mother has to carry it to term, give birth, support the child financially and emotionally, discipline and care for him/her for the rest of her life. Not to mention the loss of freedom in her personal life.

The fact is, pregnancy has a much larger effect on a woman's life than a man's.

Krystal

Why is it so wrong to provide legal rights and protection for both men and women?

It isn't.

But is it fair to say that because a woman doesn't want to have an abortion that the man is freed of all responsibility towards his child?

That doesn't sound to equal to me.

(I am refering to an "accidental" pregnancy where precautions were taken but failed)

Women who TRICK men into pregnancy is a different story and in that case I would support the man in not wanting to be involved.

New Lawsuit: Roe v. Wade for Men

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