Dr Phil's statement about pedophiles/molesters - from today's show

by Scully 12 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • Scully
    Scully

    Today on Dr Phil, the entire show revolved around 2 sisters and their half sister who grew up in an abusive home. The older two girls were molested in addition to physical, verbal and emotional abuse by their step-father (their half-sister's biological father). The youngest girl, now in her 20s, has a child of her own, whom she entrusts to the baby's grandfather - the same man who sexually abused her half sisters. I found it very interesting what Dr Phil had to say about the chance of a child molester achieving rehabilitation. Read on....

    Cathy and Micki also share a concern for Hollie's daughter. "Hollie leaves her 2-year-old daughter with her dad to baby-sit, sometimes overnight. For me, it's a huge concern," says Cathy.

    "My worst fear is that he's going to do to her what he has done to all of us," says Micki.

    "My daughter has my dad wrapped around her little pinky. He pays so much attention to Brianna. She's got his heart. Papa's heart," says Hollie.

    Dr. Phil plays a portion of a phone interview with Hollie's father. His voice is distorted, to protect his identity: "I touched their butts. There was a little bit of fondling. There was no physical abuse whatsoever. That was mild. A little bit of fondling, that's all I did. And that's it. It wasn't even enough to get me put in jail or nothing. Yeah, I touched their butts, and that's all I did. It hurts me, OK? It wasn't anything major. I'm sorry for what I've done and I'm willing to make it up to them and be part of their lives. I'm not a monster like I was. I'm a good person. I don't know what to say, I mean, I might say something wrong and p**s them off again."

    "'I touched their butts and fondled them. Big deal, it wasn't enough to go to jail'? That's not the statement of someone who recognizes that what they did would tragically affect two girls' lives," says Cathy. "That's not the statement of a father who is now a good person. And my biggest fear is that Hollie doesn't recognize that he is still capable of violating other children. He's not ever received any kind of proper treatment. Hollie leaves her child with him and trusts him completely, and that terrifies me."

    When asked for her reaction, Micki says, "'All I did was touch their butts.' Are you kidding me? He's completely minimizing it. If that was all he did, I guarantee if I would've gone to the cops, that would've been enough to put him in jail. 'It hurts me, OK?' That's him playing the victim, because he's really good at that. 'Please feel sorry for me. I'm not the monster.' And I don't think he's a monster, I just think he's sick. He has a sickness. And I wish people would acknowledge that."


    "What's your reaction to what they're saying?" Dr. Phil asks Hollie.

    "I don't have a reaction to what they're saying," she says. "This is all they've said for so long. I've heard it over and over and over. What I see is completely different. What I live with every day is completely different."

    "But you allow him to take care of your daughter unsupervised?" he asks.

    "He's had professional help," says Hollie.

    "I need to tell you this as a professional. I've been in this for 30 years. I have worked with child molesters. I have worked with sexual molesters, pedophiles, I've done it all," says Dr. Phil. "And I can tell you that the chance that they ever change is so miniscule that the risk/reward ratio for someone to entrust their children to them is so disproportionate, that it is never a prudent thing to do. I'm not saying there aren't exceptions to that rule, but I'm telling you the truth. And I certainly, as a trained professional, would never allow someone with that history, alleged by you, confirmed by him, to be alone with a child in my care, unless and until a trained professional had seriously evaluated that person, had a long history with them, understood their motivations, their impulse control, skills, abilities, and they would have to tell me that they had every confidence that that person was capable of doing that, and it wouldn't even get on the radar screen until then. I mean, if you are shutting him out of private time, unsupervised time with your children, and it's unfair to him, that to me pales in comparison to what if you're wrong? What if you are wrong? That's the issue."

    Cathy breathes a sigh of relief. "Thank you," she tells Dr. Phil.

    Micki speaks to her little sister. "I don't by any means, for one second, doubt the kind of mother you are. I think you are a fantastic mother. I just think you've been fooled, the same way that Mom's been fooled. From the time you were little, Hollie, he has groomed you, and he has brainwashed you, or manipulated your mind. And I know you want to love your dad. I know you do. And I really hope that one day you can love him and trust him the way that you should. But I think you've been fooled. You're by no means a bad mother."

  • Golf
    Golf

    Greetings Scully. The recovery rate is next to nill. I mentioned that recently when one of the poster's suggested that we be lenient with the pedophiles.

    Dr. Phil was being very tactful.


    Golf

  • Scully
    Scully

    Hi Golf.... yes he was being very tactful.

    I just wish the WTS would recognize just how they are gambling with children's lives and safety. They just have their heads so far up their backsides that they just can't see it.

  • Special K
    Special K

    I watched about half the show and got the impression that vickie? seemed to be somewhat numbed out by her sisters accusations... Didn't seem to be able to think clearly.. I guess the Dad has got her brainwashed after a fashion .. to think is is a good Dad.

    Very sad, indeed.

    Special K

  • Scully
    Scully

    I got that impression about Hollie, too, Special K. In fact, I got the distinct impression that she has some deeply buried issues herself that she may not be ready to address right now.

  • Special K
    Special K

    Your right.. Hollie was her name..

    The issue that seemed to seem to upset her the most seemed more like abandoment issues of her sisters not being there for her over the past few years. she got really emotionally upset about that. She really seemed to drop in her physical age when she told them about that.. or maybe she is stuck at some levels of psyche. I found her expressions childlike at times. .. Just my observation.

    SK

  • Leolaia
    Leolaia

    Scully...Thanks for taking the time to type out what was said and posting pictures from the show...

  • Scully
    Scully

    Thanks, Leolaia.... but all I did was C&P from the drphil.com website. I'm just a lowly messenger.

  • outoftheorg
    outoftheorg

    Does the victim of a pedophile become confused ?

    Absolutely they do.

    There is a case right now in s/w Idaho where a young girl was molested by her step father.

    The girl claims that she told the authorities about him back then and nothing was done.

    She claims that her mother knew of what was going on and did nothing.

    The victim is currently married to this same step father that molested her. He is in jail for other crimes.

    NOW she is trying to sue the athorities for neglecting to make a case.

    What a mess!

    Outoftheorg

  • AK - Jeff
    AK - Jeff

    Thanx, lowly messenger!

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