BERRY GIRLS' NEW HAMPSHIRE SUPREME COURT APPEAL IS FINALLY SET!!!

by loveis 14 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

  • loveis
    loveis

    The sad saga of the Berry girls (Holly Brewer and Heather Berry) and their mother, Sarah Poisson, is well known to most longtime posters here, having been featured prominently on the JW abuse shows on television, notably at length in the ones in the UK (BBC Panorama, "Suffer the Little Children", July 2002) and Canada (Fifth Estate, "Spiritual Shepherds", January 2003). The civil suit they brought against the WTS in the New Hampshire state courts was referred to.

    That suit was going well in pretrial motions and depositions, etc., until it was dealt a serious and potentially fatal setback by a decision made by the judge in June 2003, which was blaste--er, discussed--in these threads:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/54228/1.ashx

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/54434/1.ashx

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/54485/1.ashx

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/55064/1.ashx

    (This time period, late June 2003, was, as you may recall, the same time period when the decision in the Vicky Boer case was finally handed down, so this significant event may have been lost in the numerious threads about that).

    The Berry girls' attorneys announced their intent to appeal to the New Hampshire Supreme Court. Well, the showdown in the NHSC is finally set!The hearing (oral arguments) of the appeal is set for the afternoon of Wednesay, October 20, 2004, as shown on the court's oral argument calendar posted on the web:

    http://www.courts.state.nh.us/supreme/orals/oct2004sched.htm

    (case is at the very bottom of the page. Holly Brewer is incorrectly referred to as "Holly Berry." but maybe that's because the name was already that way in the court record. "Pro hac vice" is legalese for an attorney from another state's bar who is assisting.)

    Note that the NHSC even posts audio files of oral arguments at some point after the argument session (perhaps a few weeks later). It should be interesting to hear each side make its case before the justices.

    NOTE: SInce Bill Bowen of Silentlambs wants to testify as an expert witness for the Berry girls (when and if the case reaches trial), a deposition of him was taken by the WTS attorneys in June 2003, and he was none too pleased with the experience, as discussed on this thread:

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/53368/1.ashx

    After arguments, when the decision will come is anyone's guess, of course, but the general trend appears to suggest a decision by late spring 2005 at least.

    As a side point: Judge Groff was blasted in the threads above, but after looking at a number of appeals of decisions made by him (or by juries in jury trials that he presided over), it appears, roughly, that the NHSC has upheld those decisions about 75% of the time. So it does appear that he generally knows how to read the law in the right way.

  • Happy Guy :)
    Happy Guy :)

    Thnx 4 the update. I was just reading a thread where the lower court judge ruled in a different case that french kissing was neither sexual nor sexual contact. It was from a news report. I know the news can often misquote or even deliberately misinterpret but still wtf is that all about?

  • blondie
    blondie

    I met this family at the Silentlambs Conference. What a courageous family! They drove all the way from NH to attend. I'm glad to see that progress is being made.

    This congregation trotted out many JWs to say that the abuser was a fine, upstanding man, a good worker, someone they would let take care of their children.

    Their story is worth checking out.

    Blondie

  • loveis
    loveis
    This congregation trotted out many JWs to say that the abuser was a fine, upstanding man, a good worker, someone they would let take care of their children.

    Yes, and you can read all about it in this transcript of Paul Berry's sentencing hearing from October 31, 2000:

    http://www.silentlambs.org/education/pberry.cfm

    (SIDE POINT: The civil suit was originally filed about 9 months later, in August 2001.)

  • loveis
    loveis

    bttt

  • Happy Guy :)
    Happy Guy :)

    It seems (from what I have both seen and personally experienced) to be a common occurance this dragging the whole congregation into court to lie on behalf of the abuser. They surely must feel pressured to do this....unless it's just a case of "Bird's of a feather flock together"?

  • Simon
    Simon

    Here's hoping the decision is a good one for the girls and their mother. It was very moving seeing the documentaries.

  • loveis
    loveis

    bttt

  • loveis
    loveis

    bttt as the hearing date approaches on Wednesday afternoon.

    NOTE: Evidently, in addition to the Berry girls' appeal, the WTS has also filed a CROSS appeal, mainly of the Judge's earlier ruling that the elders did indeed owe a FIDUCIARY duty of care, the concept that has been rejected in every other case, including Vicky Boer's. They don't want that standing as a precedent, for sure.

    According to information available on the New Hampshire Supreme Court web site, the issues to be hashed out during the oral arguments are as follows:

    Negligence, deceit, breach of fiduciary duty -- failure to report abuse; whether Jehovah's Witness Elders were required to report child abuse; whether clergy-penitent privilege applies; whether inquiry into or regulation of conduct of defendants would violate Establishment Clause or Free Exercise Clause;

    CROSS-appeal -- whether action is time-barred; whether First Amendment applies; whether common law duty applies

    So, whew, that's a lot of issues, and in anticipation the justices scheduled the full 30 minute argument session (15 min. for each side). We should be able to hear the arguments online as some point before the decision is handed down.

    Be thinking about the Berry girls at about 2:00 to 3:00 PM Eastern Time Wednesday, as this hearing takes place.

  • codeblue
    codeblue

    I sure hope it goes well for the Berry Girls..........I saw their documentaries and just wanted to cry...

    I hope that they know many people are thinking about them and feel deeply for them at this time.

    CodeBlue

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