NEED YOUR HELP TO SAVE SEXTUPLETS.....WRITE THE CANADA MEDIA

by skeeter1 35 Replies latest watchtower medical

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Canada's first sextuplets were born to Jehovah's Witness parents. They were born at 25 weeks (not 40 weeks as is common with full-term). Due to their prematurity, they will most likely need blood transfusions. Even with blood transfusions, they face many complications. However, modern medicine suggestst that they have a 50/50 chance at life surmounting these obstacles (provided, of course, they get blood transfusions). Without the transfusions, I think all will die. The JW media men are, basically, trying to own the Canadian media by giving false information and trying to build pressure that these 6 should have bloodless treatment.

    These 6 babies need your help contacting all of the Canadian media, especially in the Vancouver/Brittish Columbia area where the lie in an ICU. I wrote the following. Please feel free to use it as a base, or to pen your own.

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    Dear (Newspaper):

    I write in the hopes of helping to save 6 little lives. It is clear that these sextuplets will likely need a blood transfusion, but are born to Jehovah's Witness parents.

    The Jehovah's Witness church purports to not accept blood or blood products. They base this belief that mankind should abstain from blood, and that blood, once removed from the body, should be covered in dust (i.e. not reused). Yet, you might be surprised to learn that the Church's "no-blood" policy allows its followers to accept "blood fractions" (all derived from donated blood), that if added together would equal a whole unit of blood from which they were derived (see www.ajwrb.org for a chart on the allowed blood fractions). Most followers, medical community, and media are unaware of this sly change.

    Not all Jehovah's Witnesses and many ex-followers do not follow the Church's official "no blood" position. They see it as nonsense. The Church purports to "abstain from blood", and that blood should be covered in dust and not reused. Yet, all of the allowed fractions were derived from multiple, if not thousands, of units of donated blood, and has the nerve to call this treatment part of its "bloodless" program. A rose by another name smells sweeter.

    Last year, the Associated Press and BBC reported on a peer-reviewed legal article, "Jehovah's Witnesses, Blood Transfusions, and the Tort of Misrepresentation" which appeared in the Journal of Church & State. I invite you to read it, available through www.ajwrb.org. The article looks at the Jehovah's Witness Church's misquoting of medical writers, and the various "flip flops" in the Church's official policy. I noticed that the Vancouver Sun reported that church officials suggested the use of erythropoietin injections to help build up the baby's blood. In fact, the Church tells its followers that this drug works "very quickly". The legal article explains that this shot takes 3 weeks to work. Is that "very quickly" in your mind? The legal article also looks at the various "flip flops" in the Church's official policy. In the 1950's, fractions were not allowed whatsoever. This changed through the years. However, in the October 15, 1992 Watchtower, the Church officially banned the fraction "hemoglobin". Hemoglobin is, basically, the insides of the red blood cell and is responsible for transporting oxygen to the cells. The Church unofficially began allowing its followers to take hemoglobin in 2000, and last year officially announced this change to its followers.

    These 6 little ones should be allowed to have needed blood transfusions, and not enslaved to the Jehovah's Witness church's ever-changing, nonsensical view that it "abstains" from blood. Let these sextuplets have a fighting chance at life. We can not allow this Church to make martyrs of precious little babies.

  • rebel8
    rebel8

    Suggestion: Call/email your government officials & ask them to take action to save these babies.

    Link to news story: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070111/jehovahs_sextuplets_070111/20070111?hub=Canada

    Discussion on popular web forum: Jehovah's witnesses issue statement that the sextuplets will be given proper medical treatment, except for blood transfusions, because that's just wrong --------> over 4700 views, 248 comments posted

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    Religious group comments on sextuplets' care

    Updated Thu. Jan. 11 2007 12:02 PM ET

    CTV.ca News Staff

    The Canadian branch of Jehovah's Witnesses has issued a statement in an attempt to quell speculation about the care of premature sextuplets born in B.C.

    "Discussions about treatment are private matters between the parents and their treating medical team," it reads.

    The parents, who have remained anonymous despite the intense media attention, are Jehovah's Witnesses, members of a faith that forbids them to accept blood transfusions.

    The brief text issued by the Jehovah's Witnesses group states that church members are allowed to receive any modern medical intervention, but for blood transfusions, which conflicts with their faith.

    Jehovah's Witnesses' spokesman Mark Ruge says that while they place a high spiritual value on their religion, it is no substitute for medical care.

    The sextuplets were born last weekend at just 25 weeks and gestation and weighing between 700 and 800 grams.

    Hospital officials have said transfusions are routine for premature infants, they have declined comment on the care of the sextuplets.

    But Ruge said hospitals have been able to treat other babies without giving them blood.

    "Hospitals in Canada and the United States have treated extremely premature infants without blood transfusions by careful attention to minimal blood sampling, clinical acceptance of lower hemoglobin levels, use of erythropoietin and iron to stimulate the natural production of red blood cells, and other recognized medical procedures and techniques," it stated.

    The Jehovah's Witnesses released the statement after national and Vancouver newspaper published front-page stories reporting the babies may prompt a court battle over medical treatment and religious rights.

    Ruge said it was too early to speculate about the need for intervention.

    "It is important for the media and others to avoid making stereotypical assumptions regarding Jehovah's Witnesses,'' the statement said.

    But The Globe and Mail reported that the British Columbia ministry responsible for the welfare of children has confirmed it is prepared to make the babies wards of the state, if necessary, to ensure their safety.

    "In cases where treatment is deemed to be necessary to preserve a child's life, or prevent serious or permanent impairment to a child's health, it may be necessary to seek a court order - and that's what we would do," the official told the newspaper.

    In cases where the government steps in to ensure children get treatment deemed medically necessary, guardianship typically exists only to enforce medical care. It would not include taking children from their parents.

    In 2005, the B.C. Supreme Court ordered a Jehovah's Witness teenager to undergo blood transfusions as part of her treatment for bone cancer.

    The court said that because the girl, then 14, could not refuse transfusions if doctors deemed them medically necessary because she was a minor.

    She fled to Ontario where the provincial court of appeal set aside lower court rulings that gave B.C.'s child protection agency interim custody.

    The girl, who was eventually treated at New York hospital that specializes in "blood avoidance" care, is now cancer-free.

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/14/127186/1.ashx associated thread CONTACTS http://www.theglobeandmail.com/feedback/?form=lettersToTheEditorForm&articleHeadline=Religion%2C+rights+could+clash+in+multiple+birth+case letter to editor online form http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070111.wxbckids11/CommentStory/National/home Add yourComment here need to do a quickie register Witnesses stand by blood ban for BC sextuplet
    Victoria Times Colonist, Canada - 36 minutes ago
    VANCOUVER - The national spokesman for Jehovah's Witnesses says he wants BC's sextuplets to have the best medical treatment available - without blood ...
    [email protected] seems to be most visible reporter on case Dilemma for Jehovah's witness sextuplets
    Vancouver Sun (subscription), Canada - 3 hours ago
    Although it is not known how devout the parents are, Jehovah's Witnesses are generally adamant about refusing blood transfusions [email protected] # 2 most visible reporter Questions arise over sextuplets' care
    Toronto Star, Canada - 4 hours ago
    According to Jehovah's Witnesses, all blood transfusions are forbidden. All Jehovah's Witnesses [email protected] health desk [email protected] news desk Sextuplets' parents urged to take it a day at a time
    StarPhoenix, Canada - 4 hours ago
    The Vancouver parents are Jehovah's Witnesses and could have chosen fertility treatment because the religion allows the use of such reproductive measures, ... [email protected] contact editor Sextuplets may spark transfusion debate
    Canada.com, Canada - 17 minutes ago
    Jehovah'sWitness does not allow blood transfusions, which are often needed by babies born as prematurely as the BC sextuplets. The combination ofJehovah's ... [email protected]contact

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    Religion, rights could clash in multiple birth case

    MARK HUME

    From Thursday's Globe and Mail

    Health of sextuplets born this week in B.C. could propel parents into courtroom and very public clash

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070111.wxbckids11/CommentStory/National/home Add yourComment here need to do a quickie register

    1. SAMPLE You (Danny Haszard, from Bangor Maine, United States) wrote: The Jehovah's Witnesses prohibition against "whole" blood transfusions is made up by their leaders and NOT from the Bible.It has resulted (by their own admission) in the deaths of thousands of members.
      They keep flip-flopping on this deadly dogma to evade wrongful death lawsuits.

      Did you know that the leadership of the Jehovah's Witnesses does allow many of the components of blood so called blood fractions?

      This is the issue,the blood 'ban' is so complicated that members will die out of ignorance of what's permitted.
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  • Uzzah
    Uzzah

    Canadian Law is pretty solid about infants and small children and ensuring they get necessary medical treatment.

    "I doubt we will ever get anywhere with preemies and kids. We need to focus on mature minors and adults when it comes to blood" - John Burns, WT Society Lawyer circa 1992

    The hospital has probably already done up the paperwork to seize temporary decision making ability in case of urgent need.

  • skeeter1
    skeeter1

    Even if the law steps in to save these babies, we still need to continue contact with the media. The Watchtower Society's spokespeople are getting far too many opportunity to talk to the media about their side. To keep the news, "fair & balanced", the ex-witness side needs to be heard. The problems within the blood policy needs to be brought to the front.

  • ValiantBoy
    ValiantBoy

    Skeeter, while I admire what you are doing, what qualifies you to say 'without blood, I think they all will die'? Are you a doctor?

    The articles show that their doctors, the ones most familiar with the case, are optimistic. Also the reports show that the BC child welfare dept is already prepared to step in if need be. And, while the WTS seems to be using this as an opportunity for grandstanding, the parents are being quite honorable. Imagine, for instance, if the parents were to do news conferences and use this an opportunity to propagate their beliefs..we all know witness families who would have done this.

  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    It has begun? BC would seek custody if sextuplets need blood
    StarPhoenix, Canada - 15 minutes ago
    While the parents of the six babies have remained anonymous in the midst of increasing public scrutiny, they have acknowledged they areJehovah's Witnesses. ...

    Lena Sin, CanWest News Service

    Lena Sin [email protected] seems to be most visible reporter on case Published: Friday, January 12, 2007 VANCOUVER -- The British Columbia government says it's ready to step in to protect the health rights of premature sextuplets born in Vancouver. While the parents of the six babies have remained anonymous in the midst of increasing public scrutiny, they have acknowledged they are Jehovah's Witnesses. The sect's well-known belief that God forbids blood transfusions could lead to a courtroom clash over medical and religious rights. The babies, born at 25 weeks gestation, are about the size of a hand and weigh only 700 to 800 grams. It is common for premature babies to require blood transfusions due to the number of tests they undergo leading to blood loss. An official with the Ministry of Children and Family Development, speaking generally, said the government is prepared to take temporary custody of any children whose lives are at risk. He would not comment on whether the government has contacted the parents. All health-care workers have a legal duty to report to the ministry cases where parents have refused a doctor's recommended treatment that puts a child's life at risk. "We would then assess and ensure appropriate steps have been taken to ensure the child's safety. In other words, we'd confer with medical experts involved and in cases where they deem treatment is necessary to preserve a child's life, then it'd be necessary for us to seek a court order -- and that's what we'd do," said the official. Such a court order was sought in 2005 for a Jehovah's Witness teenager, who was ordered by the B.C. Supreme Court to undergo a blood transfusion as part of her cancer treatment. She later received bloodless treatment in New York after negotiating with the B.C. government. Mark Ruge, the national spokesperson for Jehovah's Witnesses in Canada, would not comment on what the church would do if the government intervened. He says the choice of treatment remains a private matter between the parents and the medical team. "It is important for the media and others to avoid making stereotypical assumptions regarding Jehovah's Witnesses," said Ruge. He emphasized doctors have treated premature babies without blood transfusions by "careful attention to minimal blood sampling, clinical acceptance of lower hemoglobin levels, use of erythropoietin and iron to stimulate natural production of red blood cells and other recognized medical procedures." But clarifications over the years have only made things more confusing for many followers. In 2000, the official Watchtower church magazine stated due to ambiguity in the Bible, followers may now take certain components of blood for medical treatment. While the ban on blood transfusion remains, the new directive opened the door for use of such compounds as hemoglobin, obtained from fractioning red blood cells. But a schism within the tightly disciplined sect has led some followers to go as far as campaigning for a stop to the blood ban. © The StarPhoenix (Saskatoon) 2007

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  • DannyHaszard
    DannyHaszard

    BC will step in if sextuplets at risk
    National Post, Canada - 5 minutes ago
    While the parents of the six babies have remained anonymous in the midst of increasing public scrutiny, they have acknowledged they are Jehovah's Witnesses. ...

  • Gill
    Gill

    How come Mr Ruge didn't point out that the young girl ordered to have transfusions who then moved to New York for bloodless treatment then died during her bloodless treatment?

    We are talking about Bethany Hughes here aren't we?

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