Is it proper for men to tip their hats to women?

by ThomasCovenant 22 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • ThomasCovenant
    ThomasCovenant

    Apologies if you all have read this before.

    Watchtower 1952 15th April pages 254-256

    It is the woman that is commanded to show respect and recognition of the man’s position of headship, and women who rebel at it are not so much rebelling against men as they are against God.—Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:2-10; Eph. 5:33.

    But in his world Satan has reversed matters. Starting in Eden, he has pushed the woman ahead of the man, exalted her above man and used her to bring about the downfall of men dedicated to Jehovah. He has flouted God by reversing the position of the sexes. But he is very subtle about it, camouflaging his work under the guise of harmless custom. Many customs are harmless, but when they contradict a theocratic principle Satan is behind it to discredit God. He is a past master at such deception. (2 Cor. 11:14) In this particular matter of hat-tipping he appeals to the vanity of women and the so-called gentlemanly qualities of men, and any man who does not comply with the subtle custom is considered crude and discourteous, disrespectful of womanhood. So out of a fear of what others may think the majority fall into conformity

    When a customary show of respect is performed between men as well as between man and woman, when it does not set the woman apart for special honor because of her sex, then it does not seem Scripturally objectionable. Hat removal would be too inconvenient for the woman? Then why is it the man that is supposed to rise when a woman enters a room or comes to or leaves the table, and never the woman? Is it too inconvenient again? Is she pinned to the chair, as the hat is pinned to her head? What custom does exist whereby women show respect to men? The absence of any is not just by chance, but is by satanic design to untheocratically elevate the woman above the man. In many ways Satan has taken the woman from the position assigned her by God, taken her from the home and its duties and put her into politics and commerce and religious leadership, and thereby caused much of the modern breakdown on the family front.—Heb. 13:4; Rev. 2:20.

    The surface courtesies that are flattering to human vanity are not what real Christian women want; instead they cherish the respect and love of one Christian toward another, and which are shown in weightier ways than the untheocratic customs of Satan’s lustful world. Both men and women should stay in the place God assigned them, in human relationships and divine worship. Only such as are content with these assigned places will live in the new world. Open or subtly disguised creature worship and exaltation will have no place there. It has no place with true Christians now.

    Thanks

    Thomas Covenant

  • bluebell
    bluebell

    LMAO so a woman should always be in subjection but it's SATANIC to show respect to her.

  • dedpoet
    dedpoet
    Both men and women should stay in the place God assigned them, in human relationships and divine worship. Only such as are content with these assigned places will live in the new world. Open or subtly disguised creature worship and exaltation will have no place there.

    Well I've learned something!

    I had no idea that by holding a shop door open for a woman this morning, I was actually
    worshipping her! I just thought I was being polite.

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    No, TC, never read it before. Amazing piece of "work." Thanks.

    "What custom does exist whereby women show respect to men? The absence of any is not just by chance, but is by satanic design to untheocratically elevate the woman above the man."

    Puh-leeze. I wonder which WT men stayed up nights coming to that ridiculous conclusion? Were they feeling "slighted" and/or aggravated at "having to" pull out a chair for a lady to sit; or hold a door open; or "tip their hat," etc.? Were they wanting the "sisters" to start standing up when the "brothers" walk into the room?

    Was this written during the Nathan Knorr era? Wasn't he the one who told all the men not to get married, etc.?

    /ag

  • snowbird
    snowbird

    This is a carry-over from the Rutherford era. In fact, it is almost a word-for-word parrot of one of his books in which, according to Rutherford, if a man removes his hat, opens a door, pulls out a chair for a woman, he is subtly engaging in creature worship!!!

    I think the man Rutherford hated God, women, babies, and anyone or anything else.

    That having been said, is anyone on this board from A-L-A-B-A-M-A?

    Snowbird

  • TheCoolerKing
    TheCoolerKing
    "What custom does exist whereby women show respect to men? The absence of any is not just by chance, but is by satanic design to untheocratically elevate the woman above the man."

    Huh???!!! Sounds like more BS from the WTS that justifies their disrepect of women...amazing!!!

  • ninja
    ninja

    its a bunch of arse

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    What a bunch of hooey.

    "What custom does exist whereby women show respect to men?"

    It's called Father's Day. Oh, that's right... *slaps forehead* ...yall don't celebrate that either.

    The ramblings stop just short of saying that saying 'Yes, maam.' and 'No, maam.' are satan's doings, too.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • Jim_TX
    Jim_TX

    ...another thought on this...

    Based on this 'logic', then one can assume that it is okay for guys to stand around and do 'cat calls', 'whistles' and other derogatory facial expressions and noises - directed at women - since that is derogatory and putting women in their place - according to the bible - and god's arrangement, eh?

    No wonder the WTBTS has a lot of child abusers and pedophiles amongst their ranks.

    Regards,

    Jim TX

  • Pahpa
    Pahpa

    It just represents the length of ridiculousness that the Watchtower went to in trying to keep women conscious of their positions in the Watchtower organization. Both Russell and Rutherford had unhappy marriages. Rutherford often made disparaging remarks about female members of the Watchtower. And the attitude remained for many years in spite of the fact that women carried on the bulk of the witnessing work and were generous contributors to the Watchtower Society.

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