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  Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

  here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

  basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

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  StarTrekAngel

  I am on the same boat as you all but  lets not make assumptions

  
  

  Who said that all the donations had to come from Spain alone?

  Who said that a handful of rich JW did not see this as a tax shelter? We can't take an average literally. It is just that, an average.

  The actual news article says this started in 2001. The news article is also dated Jan 22. If we take the years into account when calculating the average, then you are now about 10,000 euros per year, per publisher. Still a high number, but much lower than previously estimated. Like I said, it is just an average.
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  Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

  here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

  basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

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  StarTrekAngel

  I have not seen a bloodless hospital but I have heard mention of something like it. I also heard, from a JW relative, that someone started a private school for witnesses, where evolution and other worldly sciences are not considered in the curriculum and where preparing kids for the meeting is part of the daily activities.

  In either case, I would not doubt that the average witness would not hesitate to put up money for "such noble cause", real or not.

  What is yet more exciting is, if the news gets confirmed and spread, what would be the WTBTS reaction. I would not put it past them that they would see how much of that money could have been theirs if some "sense" was talked into the brothers. That is, do not believe in this "bloodless hospitals", if you want to help, send us the money.
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  Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

  here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

  basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

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  StarTrekAngel

  Fourteen elders can easily come from on KH that hosts more than one large cong, but 1300 donors can not come from one place. I am assuming that people from their hall got talked into it and they talked their relatives and friends into it.
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  Elders in Spain Steal Millions from Congregation

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  these men are appointed by holy spirit,.

  here is the source: http://www.economiadigital.es/es/notices/2015/01/la-fiscalia-imputa-una-estafa-de-mas-de-170-millones-de-euros-a-una-congregacion-de-testigos-de-jeho-65161.php.

  basically, if you don't know spanish, it boils down to this: (my personal editorial of what i've read).

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  StarTrekAngel

  I can confirm your description of it (native spanish speaker)
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  Insistance on legal contracts

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines.

  there was a wt study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that god made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts".

  this week's book study concentrated on the same thing.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Yeah, I had kind of figured that out even before I began coming to sites like this one. But there is a gap between a verbal agreement and a written one.
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  Insistance on legal contracts

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines.

  there was a wt study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that god made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts".

  this week's book study concentrated on the same thing.

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  StarTrekAngel

  ok.. I just hope that one day they are not going to start demanding we sign a legal agreement in order to remain members or get baptized.
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  Insistance on legal contracts

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines.

  there was a wt study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that god made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts".

  this week's book study concentrated on the same thing.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Just asking those who still attend or keep up with the latest magazines. There was a WT study not too long ago that insisted on studying every pact that God made in the past, but adding the spin of calling them "legal contracts". This week's book study concentrated on the same thing. Not to start a conspiracy thread, but this smells funny to me.
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  Letter to BOE

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  christian congregation of jehovahs witnesses.

  2821 route 22, patterson, ny 12563-2237 phone: (845) 306-1100.

  january 13, 2015. to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Anyone has a link to download a copy of the letter?
  
  
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  Re: Experienced Attorneys and Paralegals Needed at Bethel

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i thought we needed carpenters and plumbers in paradise...oh well... the hypocrisy.

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territoryre: experienced attorneys and paralegals needed at bethel.

  dear brothers:.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Does anyone know when this letter was sent? Is it recent? Anyone has a copy of the real letter?
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  Resolutions to send money to society

  by wannaexit in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  during the course of the year congregations pass a number of resolutions to send money to the branch.

  this year i've resolved to count all money grab endeavors.

  so far for the month of january there were two locally:.

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  StarTrekAngel

  Our cong resolved to send $300 a month after the new arrangement was announced. Our Hall had just finished a $130K remodeling project. Everyone saw this as the biggest blessing ever. We had not send the first payment for the project and the loan was "forgiven". Never mind that we would now donate $300 for who knows how long. Not a year later, in December, another resolution was passed to up the amount to $500 a month.