i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.
they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!
it must have been rutherford, right??
Emeth;...Of course there will be an end in terms of our planet and human existane, if nothing else our dying sun will see to that
I doubt ole freddie boy will have anything to do with it .
Read on if you must. Who is your saviour jehovah or speedy fred!?? GET REAL!!
i had the opportunity to speak with 5 elders at once recently.
they were all gibbering about jw stuff, so i asked , who was the first fds?!?!
it must have been rutherford, right??
Emeth;...Fred pearce must have been inspired by the back door method. GET REAL!!!
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
Sarahsmile;..I hope as a prson you understand and can feel compassion and love, perhaps you have revised your thinking concerning the hideous concept of eternal torture in hellfire.
Perhaps this is why you have not responded to Cofty. I hope so.
Love and human kindness to you.
why are jws so afraid of apostates?
their view of apostates seems to be out of the realm of the ordinary, the natural.
its as if the words of apostates are supernatual or spiritistic as if apostates are some kind of jedi knights who can slightly wave their hands or twitch their eyes and bring one under a spell.
Emeth;...I wouldn't disagree with you, but I know the WT publications discouraged it, making a lot of JWs fearful of it. Looks like a lot took some time to accept it's usage.
Why would the society discourage and then encourage in such a short period of time?
Very confusing for the bros and sisters don't you think?
Now with promotion of JW.ORG it is ok?
Why put your faith in such childish silliness?
Best wishes
why are jws so afraid of apostates?
their view of apostates seems to be out of the realm of the ordinary, the natural.
its as if the words of apostates are supernatual or spiritistic as if apostates are some kind of jedi knights who can slightly wave their hands or twitch their eyes and bring one under a spell.
Emeth;...I think it has a lot to do with fear, ì see it in my sisters eyes when I mention anything she can't respond to.
She now uses the internet, but previously would turn her face away if I tried to show her something to back up a point I was making.
I know she believed it was satans work. Now she uses the internet after realising my brother ( an elder ) was using it
jwsurvey posted a pic of the wt.org store in france.
that building looks like something you would find in the vancouver,b.c.
eastend.
Note ;..they are neighbours to aTABAC bar these are the only places in france where you can purchase tobacco products. So plenty of smokers to frown upon and plenty of ciggy butts to sweep from their shop front .I wonder who gets that duty ?
hi everyone,.
i'm researching 587 vs 607 for the date of the destruction of jerusalem... i'm not doing the research to prove or disprove anything about 1914, rather i'm looking at these dates in comparison to 1948 & 1967.. what is your view on relying on the cyrus cylinder, to accept 607 as the correct date of destruction... i know that there are many other factors.. but i'm trying to keep this portion of my research as simple as possible, so i'm primarily interested in the appropriateness of using the cylinders date of 537 + 70 = 607. one other question.. is it likely that both dates 587 & 607 have their own significance?.
Hi trans' ...you posed a question , the answer is; as far as the lifespan of any individual who wishes to dwell on the subject
And as long as humans exist who give credence to this mumbo jumbo. Its all in the complex reasoning as to why anyone would want to believe it has significance on their lives.
it's obvious the bible is very clear on a actual hell of fire.
"cursed into the eternal fire with the devil and his angels", rev.20:15.
"lake of fire", rev.21:8 "fire and brimstone".
Yes!! I'm with Cofty on this one a plague on society, yet I would never condemn any Christian to hellfire on the contrary I would always treat them with respect albeit that I fundementaly disagree with their beliefs. How abhorrent to even consider someone being tortured in hellfire for ever, and what arrogant ignorance!!
ever since reading about dmt and hearing people discuss it, my new post-jw open mind wants to experience it.
anyone here tried it or feels the same?.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqzhzax4ro.
Hi snare;..good point re addictive personality, now that is very worthy of research. I don't know how much this is or has been researched as to why ssome become addicted.
I think the golden rule is if in doubt leave it out.
A clear head must lead to understanding the whys and wherefores of life better, and of course better repercussions for loved ones and society in ganeral.
Best wishes
maybe a silly question, but i'm curious about this part of the story of christ's crucifixion, when the 1 thief challenges jesus to save himself and "us too" from their deaths, but the 2nd thief rebukes him and pleads with jesus... .
luke 23:42-43: and he said unto jesus, lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
and jesus said unto him, verily i say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise.. .
Definately a case of crossed purposes. I wouldn't stake my life on either outcome !
