Posts by DwainBowman

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February 15, 2015 Watchtower Tells Lies About Bible Jesus!

by Island Man in

page 6, paragraph 7 dishonestly makes the following 2 claims about jesus:.

"he never called undue attention to himself.

instead, he directed all glory to his father.".

DwainBowman

Don't you just love the parts dealing with the lost sheep, how plainly it shows how the lost ones were to be treated. Yet insted of really helping the sickly and injured sheep, instead they kick them, and beat on them, then toss, the woonded weak sheep, out into the cold dark night, scared and alone!

Then the lost son, who had gone off and led a very BSD late, and when he came to see how, his dads slaves had it better than he. So he goes home , and as his dad caught site of him, ran to him, grabbed and hugged him, and started ordering his servents to make a feast for him. All without holding a kangaroo court, to humiliate, and beat him even more.

Both the dad, and Sheppard, pictured Jesus and his Dad, and how they expected sick and injured followers to be treated, and cared for!

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Japanese torture of American prisoners in WW2 revealed

by fulltimestudent in

this is not a new story.

the japanese military in ww2 were barbaric in the way they treated captured servicemen.

i was about ten when my father's best friend came home from a japanese prison camp.

DwainBowman

My dad spent most of WWII hiden in the jungles of the Philpines. Three times he was caught, the first time was by two men scout teams, the third time by a small company of groups. After he died, his sister told me of his experience in WWII. Some how he killed the first two groups that caught him, and escaped from the larger one. He was near death as the US army retook the Island's. He spents months in the hospital before being shipped back to the states. My mom met him at the train station. (Until the army found him, he was listed as MIA, likely dead) When he was last home he was 6' 175 pounds, full head of hair. When the army found him, he weight 75 pounds. When he got off the train, he was 95 pounds, bald, and toothless. My mom was looking for the man that had left. He walked up to her, and said, You don't know me, do you! !

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Why only 7 or 8 members on the Governing Body?

by Gilgamesh in

now and then someone hears a rumor that the gb might go with 12 members instead of the 8 (or now 7) they currently have.

the value of 12 is understandable, which might even drive the rumors every time they plan to add another 4 or 5 new persons to the gb helpers list.

of course, a rumor that steals their thunder may also promote a delay, even if true.. i'm sure this quote from the watchtower was previously commented upon as a good explanation for the watch tower's best reason to leave the number at 7 or 8:.

DwainBowman

It just like a JC vote, if it 2 to 1, and they can't get past it, they do what ever had the winning vote, and claim they were in total agreement!

The GBodies would never get anything done if it had to always be 200%!

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How many members left the Watchtower because of all the Hatred and Anti-christian behavior? Were you exposed to betrayal, lies and slander against your family?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the elders and overseer said "wait on jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!

" and i explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other witness families with instruction we are to use when the end comes.

why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?.

DwainBowman

They did not want me to tell anyone that I had indeed been dfed wrongly, and that they had thought they what had happened, and needed no other information! If it got out that they had made that big of a mistake in my case, maybe they had in others as well?

Well at least it opened my eyes to the truth!

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Reports of lower memorial attendance

by thedepressedsoul in

i have heard a lot of reports from kingdom halls in the area that there was less than last year, for both time slots.. we had the first time slot and we were down 50+/- compared to last year.

last year we had the lobby full of people standing and this year we had empty seats and no one standing.

we ran out of parking last year and this year we made it.. like i said i am hearing quite a few reports of this from halls in our area.however, somehow the number seem to inch up every year.

DwainBowman

Just think how much money the sheeple spend on the invite work, for what, 2 or 3 people, to show up! Hell it's just the sheeples money, they don't need it!

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How many members left the Watchtower because of all the Hatred and Anti-christian behavior? Were you exposed to betrayal, lies and slander against your family?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

i am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the elders and overseer said "wait on jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!

" and i explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other witness families with instruction we are to use when the end comes.

why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?.

DwainBowman

Tried and convicted, without being told, I was in a JC meeting, dfed for over a year. Years later I was informed of what I was accused of. When I said no I wasn't told, they then said they both informed me, and that I confessed! All lies, if they had informed me, one quick phone call would have cleared up everything! It still took months to get everything sort of fixed. With the understanding, that I could not say a word about it to anyone!

Talk about eye opening!

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Why only 7 or 8 members on the Governing Body?

by Gilgamesh in

now and then someone hears a rumor that the gb might go with 12 members instead of the 8 (or now 7) they currently have.

the value of 12 is understandable, which might even drive the rumors every time they plan to add another 4 or 5 new persons to the gb helpers list.

of course, a rumor that steals their thunder may also promote a delay, even if true.. i'm sure this quote from the watchtower was previously commented upon as a good explanation for the watch tower's best reason to leave the number at 7 or 8:.

DwainBowman

It takes 2/3 to vote for something for it to pass. So I can just see them pushing there favorite's and not being able to get many things done!

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Ecclesiasticus

by berrygerry in

thought this quote (ecclesiasticus 37:14) from another thread deserved it's own.. finally, stick to the advice your own heart gives you,.

no one can be truer to you than that;.

since a person's soul often gives a clearer warning.

DwainBowman

Ecclesiastics

Sirach
Book
The Book of the All-Virtuous Wisdom of Joshua ben Sira, commonly called the Wisdom of Sirach or simply Sirach, and also known as the Book of Ecclesiasticus or Ben Sira, is a work of ethical teachings ... Wikipedia

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Ecclesiasticus

by berrygerry in

thought this quote (ecclesiasticus 37:14) from another thread deserved it's own.. finally, stick to the advice your own heart gives you,.

no one can be truer to you than that;.

since a person's soul often gives a clearer warning.

DwainBowman

Are you sure that's 37:14 ?

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Active posters: What education have you had, what degrees do you possess?

by EndofMysteries in

jw
friends

from so many posts and conversations on here, you'd think over 1/2 the posters here possess doctorates in theology, physics, biology, etc.

i'm curious aside from the books and research people have done here, what degrees they have.

to start, i just got an aa and going straight through full time to an mba.

DwainBowman

I had a friend, that's been dead for a number of years now. He quit school in the 6th. His family lived a short walk to one of the big Collage's in LA. He spent every minute he could studying in the collage library. At 19 he went to work at JPL. In a short time they knew he was a really smart man. His understanding of math & science were over the top! In no time he was set up with his own lab and staff. Hi tech fuels that were used in the Apollo missions were his, along with the shuttle fuels. He received Phd's from MIT, U Alabama, UCLA, without ever taking a class. He moved to All in the mid 70's, and worked for NASA, at the Red Stone Arsenal. He was just unbelievably smart!

Education, is more than going to a higher school, and a sheep skin! I know people with 4 to 8 year degree's, that work the counters at McDonald's, because they do not have what it takes, to use what they learned!

Everyone has natural abilities both in learning and understanding! I worked with mechanical engineer's for a few years, one a Mr Bill Fortman, had only a high school education, yet he had a natural mechanical understanding, the others could never match. No amount of education can teach what he had!

I am nobody, under pressure from the elders, I quit school in the 9th, to pionner. Right after that my dad order me back to school, or get out. I was hardly 15. I left. Pioneered, worked, and lived in a boarding house until I was 18. I got a real job. One day they started giving everyone assessment test. Then based on the results gave more specialized test. Mine was Mechanical. In a test that was to take an hour, I finished it in 25 minutes. I scored 99%. Well I was accused of cheating, for no one had ever taken this test in less than 50 minutes, and I was told no one had ever scored over 97%. Well they gave me a much newer test, with three people watching. It too was an hour test. I finished it in 46 minutes! And scored 99%! The next week I was sent to Chicago for training, under Bill Fortman. Major pay increase, and a great job. Sadly over time the elders got to me, for all though I made moist meetings, and fs, it wasn't good enough, I bought into the lie's about 75, and quit the best job I ever had. I would be retired now, and in much better shape!

I wasted my real gift for nothing, broken, used up and crushed. In pretty bad shape physically, and i see no real way forward!