jesus had no dna from joseph.. a case could be made that jesus was the son of woman.
but, seriously...folks...... here is the real point:.
within the hebrew bible, the first place one comes across the phrase son of man is in book of numbers 23:19:.
Hi Michelle! Thanks for responding. As to why Jesus is, you showed by citing a few scriptures. I believe that is called circular reasoning. Because a book makes a claim about what an individual was suppose have said dosen't make it true.
You believe and accept the Bible is inspired and from God. I don't believe that. So, citing a few scriptures don't help me at all. I still remain in the doubting Thomas class.
Blueblades
please read this post!.
the ireland case is a big loss for the watchtower society.. it's a big win for ex-jws.
i read the very, very , very long irish high court's opinion.
Anyone have an update on "The Tort Of Misrepresentation" about the blood issue. Wrongful death due to misinformation on blood transfusions that has caused untold deaths.
Blueblades
just don't happen enough.......i miss the chatter.
we need something new already....new light or something.
i can't just sit idly by anticipating the death of the 1914 thingy.....oompa
Oompa have you heard anything on "The Tort Of Misrepresentation" That was a big announcement some time ago. It had to do with wrongful death because of those not having the truth about blood transfusions. So, those who died were told by the society things about blood that were falsely represented. A lawyer whose mother died because of this is suing the society under "The Tort Of Misrepresentation" law. I think her name is Kerry Woods or something to that effect. If this works the society will be backed up with a long line of wrongful death cases.
This why they are trying to spoonfeed us the changes on the blood doctrine.
Blueblades
just don't happen enough.......i miss the chatter.
we need something new already....new light or something.
i can't just sit idly by anticipating the death of the 1914 thingy.....oompa
Oompa, that last quote was not from me. It was from TJ.
Blueblades
just don't happen enough.......i miss the chatter.
we need something new already....new light or something.
i can't just sit idly by anticipating the death of the 1914 thingy.....oompa
OOMPA, I recieved a call yesterday from a close friend who was distressed when an elder called on him and told him that it has been announced by the CO. that they are to ( go after, hunt down ) call on inactive ones and browbeat them , err lovingly and kindly force them to answer why they are not coming to the meetings and doing field service.
They want to have a meeting with all the inactive ones and ( beat the living ....out of them ) ask them kindly to explain where they been and what have they been doing all this time away from the ( we love youuu) meetings.
Does this help you? Is this an announment that will give you your fix?
Blueblades
jesus had no dna from joseph.. a case could be made that jesus was the son of woman.
but, seriously...folks...... here is the real point:.
within the hebrew bible, the first place one comes across the phrase son of man is in book of numbers 23:19:.
Narkissos, there seems to be about as many Jesuses as there are books written about him. Some of them market the sweet and gentile Jesus who simply told everyone to be nice and good and loving, but this sort of figure would not have aroused much emotion, would not of cause such violent reactions either for or against him.
Other books describe a fiery wizard, a frightening figure warning of imminent damnation then and later. Still others present a social revolutionary fighting for the underdog, or a heroic general mustering the troops against moral evil.
Is he best perceived as a benevolent magician? A cool, confident teacher of right living? A stern lawgiver? A gracious, generous provider of everything necessary to a good life? Take your pick, and the library can satisfy every inclination.
Because the New Testament provides so few facts about Jesus, preachers and writers have always stepped in to take up the slack, providing an endless variety of portraits limned in the colors of vivid speculation and imagination.
No one who speaks or writes about Jesus does so without a viewpoint, a "take" on him. However elaborate or simple the presentation, or however he is discussed in terms of conventional Church doctrine or simply wrapped in warm and pious reverie that can offend no one,we are always left with a dilemna: after working our way through all the thickets and the options, it is "someone else's Jesus" who is presented for our consideration.
Some have been able to by pass this by telling us that it is one's own experience of him that the true Jesus draws near. And so they may have the answer that Terry is asking about Jesus.
Blueblades ( I haven't heard from Jesus yet, I wait just as doubting Thomas did, and we have a lot to talk about )
jesus had no dna from joseph.. a case could be made that jesus was the son of woman.
but, seriously...folks...... here is the real point:.
within the hebrew bible, the first place one comes across the phrase son of man is in book of numbers 23:19:.
Thanks Narkissos. So, history has nothing to say about Jesus. Then the answers given to Terry are predicated on the information found in the book called the Bible and other sources quoted by you and Leolaia and others. Aren't some of these other sources considered writings of history and not some holy books?
The reason I ask is for creditably when it comes to talk about Jesus.
Blueblades
jesus had no dna from joseph.. a case could be made that jesus was the son of woman.
but, seriously...folks...... here is the real point:.
within the hebrew bible, the first place one comes across the phrase son of man is in book of numbers 23:19:.
Terry, if this is a simple question, why the not so simple answers from some of the best contributers on this forum?
Which of the contributers ( Terry, JosephMalik, Narkissos, Leolaia, Otwo, Awakened, Bts, Gregor, and others ) believe that the Bible is from God and which of the contributers believe that it is not?
Those that believe and don't believe, have mixed understandings when answering your simple question.
As for me, I don't believe that "The Holy Bible" is from God. I believe that it is written by groups of men and or woman with special, interest's in their own cause.
I know that this is not about whether one believes in the Bible or not, however, the Bible is being used to try and answer your simple question about the man Jesus.
With respect to all the contributers, I ask, what does history tell us? How does history answer the question without using the Bible?
Blueblades
i guess its time to throw my little story out there.
i keep reading everyones stories and thinking how brave you have all been, coming out of the organisation and facing all the repercussions of doing so.. .
i only last august disassociated myself.
Welcome, and pay no mind to realone. You know what's best for you to live a happy life. Be happy, don't worry. You are captive no more. Love will break a heart and love will mend it .
Blueblades
" (ps.
but like david, we can be comforted in knowing that jehovah fully understands our distresses.-ps.34:15.. ot example--david.
ot example--solomon.
Well Blondie, Jesus cried, Jesus wept, tears flowed many times for him on different occasions. Yet he had to wait until he was tortured and murdered and only then was he heard and brought back to life ( if you believe what was said in hearsay many years ago ). So, friend, if it was good enough for Jesus to have to wait for relief, you better get use to suffering and wait your turn for the relief to come, real soon, oh look! here it comes ! sorry, new light! Things have changed, just a little while longer, hang in there.
Blueblades ( I'm out of Kleenex )
