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  Alan Rickman's Passing

  by TipsyMangoTea in

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  alan rickman, best known to my generation as prof. severus snape from the harry potter film franchise, has passed away due to cancer at the age of 69.. growing up with a witness mother, anything related to science fiction and fantasy was looked down upon, so, naturally, i was a rebel rebel (oh david bowie...).. just wanted to let any potterheads know the news and that even if you feel like you'll never be free of the deadly watchtower, you're not alone and there's hope.. always..

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  talesin

  I just read about this today, and gosh, just very sad. Not only one of our greatest actors, but a truly lovely person as well. RIP

  You will be missed - Truly, Madly, Deeply. : '(

  https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9aYzxUP17i9MrKQewRmEjN9BT-Ff8FMRe_8FcYafstAFBEjh_
  
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  It Is With the Heaviest of Hearts...

  by AudeSapere in

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  .. source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

  it is with the heaviest of hearts that we [the eagles]...the passing of our comrade, eagles founder, glenn frey, in new york city on monday, january 18th, 2016.glenn fought a courageous battle for the past several weeks but, sadly, succumbed to complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis and pneumonia.the frey family would like to thank everyone who joined glenn to fight this fight and hoped and prayed for his recovery.words can neither describe our sorrow, nor our love and respect for all that he has given to us, his family, the music community & millions of fans worldwide.cindy frey | taylor frey | deacon frey | otis frey|don henley | joe walsh | timothy b. schmit | bernie leadon | irving azoff“it's your world now”written by glenn frey and jack tempchinfrom the eagles’ long road out of eden albuma perfect day, the sun is sinkin' lowas evening falls, the gentle breezes blowthe time we shared went by so fastjust like a dream, we knew it couldn't lastbut i'd do it all againif i could, somehowbut i must be leavin' soonit's your world nowit's your world nowmy race is runi'm moving onlike the setting sunno sad goodbyesno tears allowedyou'll be alrightit's your world noweven when we are apartyou'll always be in my heartwhen dark clouds appear in the skyremember true love never diesbut first a kiss, one glass of winejust one more dance while there's still timemy one last wish: someday, you'll seehow hard i tried and how much you meant to meit's your world nowuse well your timebe part of something goodleave something good behindthe curtain fallsi take my bowthat's how it's meant to beit's your world nowit's your world nowit's your world now.

  ..... source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.

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  No one should have to die from those causes nowadays, What a sad way to go, and a great loss to the art world. RIP
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  Please help with Rama Singh's letter

  by I am a Bible Student in

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  2. scandals

  hello could someone please help me with the actual letter that rama singh wrote asking wt to retract and apologise for misquoting him in the january 2015 awake?

  i am giving it to the elders in my former congregation as part of my farewell letter.

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  talesin

  article quoted on jwfacts found at this link:

  http://www.inquisitr.com/1766536/biology-professor-creationist-magazine/
  

  partial quote from article:

  In a letter to the editor of the magazine, the biology professor said that, in the paper from which the quote was taken, he went on to explain the nonreligious reasons which lead people to doubt evolution. Professor Singh’s reasons can be summed up simply, though: people doubt evolution because they do not understand it. That’s a far cry from indicating that there are good, science-based reasons to doubt the current understanding of evolution of man. Condemning the magazine for the misuse of his words, Singh says that his quote was deliberately twisted to perpetuate lies, and he’s calling for an apology.
  “I have received inquiries from many evolutionists, atheists and former members of your organization (ex-JW) who brought the above misquotation to my attention. I agree with them that your misquotation of my work is deliberate and meant to convince your followers in the truth of creationism by perpetuating false support from scientists.”
  “So I am asking you first to remove the misquotation from your article immediately and second print an unconditional apology for what I consider is a deliberate damaging action on your part to my reputation.”

  jwfacts link - scroll down to find the Awake! article in question
  

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/misquotes-deception-lies.php

  quote from this page at jwfacts

  Another 2015 Awake! used a famous scientist to garner misleading support for creation, quoting Rama Singh as saying "The opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population." (Awake! 2015 Jan p.3) This poorly referenced quote is from Darwin’s legacy: why biology is not physics, or why evolution has not become a common sense, (as of 2 Jan 2016). Whilst the quote is accurate, it misrepresents Singh's intention. Singh continues in the same paragraph, "There are several reasons why facts of evolution are not easily comprehensible by the general masses." He continues by explaining why educated people lack comprehension of evolution. Prompted by Singh officially complaining about Awake! using “intellectual dishonesty” when taking him out of context, see inquisitr.com, Watchtower retracted the statement, reloading an edited version of the Awake! issue to their site without the reference to Singh.
  
  Awake! 2015 Jan p.3 before and after revision
  
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  Is there evidence for networks of abuse?

  by slimboyfat in

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  i tend to avoid the subject because it's too depressing, so i've probably missed lots of discussion about this issue.

  but i read a comment on youtube yesterday that shocked me and made me wonder.

  the person claimed that many years ago abusers in society generally identified jws as a safe haven for abusers and joined en masse order to exploit the situation.

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  There is a network of pedophiles, and people within the JWS are part of it It is not an exclusively JW network, though there are JWS involved. The local PD has a 'unit' of 2 people that deals with it.
  
  Proof is hard to come by, as victims are threatened with reprisals, of course. If one is born into this 'network', it's hard to break the fear. Most times though, speaking out doesn't make much difference, because few people *want* to believe such horrors exist.
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  David Bowie

  by smiddy in

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  i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .

  rip d,b, .

  smiddy .

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  Promise this is my last, for now hehe.... but from the movie, it's ZIGGY,

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8sdsW93ThQ
  
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  David Bowie

  by smiddy in

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  i just heard the news david bowie has died ,so sad .

  rip d,b, .

  smiddy .

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  I think this playlist on youtube is close to compleat. ShirleyW,. the song you\re looking for is listed on here - hope it plays in the USA. tal

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa6bI_95G9I&list=PLAtmGvv5veX_3o5oN3ih8jmtjuU2kXHAT&index=16

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  EDIT: Click on "David Bowie" and a new window will open on the playlist, I was just listening to Rebel, Rebel ; P

  Just listening to "Fame" ........ have the cassette still. it is worn, so worn.... *sigh*

  Dagney: I will check them both out - I just started watching Power, it's great show! xo :)
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  Any former elders brains I could pick?

  by BarelyThere in

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  i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

  it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

  i was dfed back in september for adultery.

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  I think those are two great topics, and lessons we all need to learn when exiting the cult.

  
  
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  Any former elders brains I could pick?

  by BarelyThere in

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  i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

  it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

  i was dfed back in september for adultery.

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  smiddy, I do think of him, and yes, I hear you. I am taking the OP at her word, though. Her family (first) gave her no advice, help, and trust me, I know exactly how that feels at her age. It's hard to explain, if you were a good little JW gurl like me. "Don't come home to us for help - we will always take your husband's side. YOU are the difficult one". Oh, yes, even though he was worldly. You may have no idea how it can be, how cruel (or you may *smile*). She also says this,

  Now, I didn't conspire to "put away my mate." I was unhappy and worked on my marriage and got nothing in return. I regret that I have to say that I had an affair but I turned my time and attention to someone else.

  I think that it's a bad choice in RL (real life),but in the cult, sometimes cheating is the only way to get out of a very bad marriage (even when you are being beaten black and blue, let alone 'just being unhappy and dreading the rest of your life'. And if the OP did it before kids were involved, I say, 'you made the best choice you had at the time ... now, don't f*ck it up and compound the error of choosing to be a JW again".
  
  To husband, I say, if you are reading, you can be part of the forum. We will support you as well. Perhaps you can learn TTATT and the two of you can heal whatever wounds have been created. I'm sorry for your pain - it's not your fault, that lies squarely on the Organization. xx tal

  PS: Shadow - spot on to both comments. xx
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  Any former elders brains I could pick?

  by BarelyThere in

  1. jw
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  i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

  it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

  i was dfed back in september for adultery.

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  Sorry, I was just reading threads, and realized after posting, you were looking for help from former/current elders. I'll leave the comment, and also. TheListener - you remind me of my one support on the JC (RIP Georgie, killed by the drink at a young age). He was kind and wise, but came from a powerful JW family, had zero say in any decisions, and could not escape his heritage of money and elderhood. He finally "Left Las Vegaa". That is good advice, and the young woman (girl) that I was back then, sends you a warm thank you! Wish I had that kind of support many years ago. xx tal PS. okay, my eyes are moistening, ahem ! enough of that. To the OP, things will work out, you've done well, just breathe! xx
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  Any former elders brains I could pick?

  by BarelyThere in

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  i posted in another topic a few hours ago.

  it is my first time on here or any website like this, ever.

  i was dfed back in september for adultery.

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  You have not mentioned kids, so if there are none, well, you tried to work on it. I hear your frustration, and also a certain amount of naivete. Yes, you were rushed into a bad choice at 19. You made choices that had dire consequences.

  What happened then? It's called 'arrested development'. You need some time on your own, to discover who you are. To learn how to use logic and reason, instead of ruling with your emotions. Take a deep breath, put the single brother on hold (SERIOUSLY? don't even go there - from the frying pan directly into the fire - smh, you have a lot to learn).

  Do some reading here, elsewhere, listen to music, read a book, clear your head. Then, begin to think through the rest of your life.