Though it's been about three years since I was an "eldub" I have never seen nor heard of a CD just for elders. The written instructions to the elders are that the 'secret' book not be stored on any electronic retrieval system. Some elders I know do have such things downloaded, but the R&F dub elder wouldn't have a clue as to how to accomplish such a thing anyway.
SadElder
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Secret literature
by HarryPotter inalmost the majority of us know that there is a secret book just for the elders which is called "pay attention..." everybody knows that the society defends herself saying that the book is not secret becasue it was shown to the witnesses in an assambley and there is a picture of it in the book proclaimers so she askes how the book could be a secret.
well, acccording to my dicctionary for learners of english says: secret; something that is secret is known about by only a small number of peple, and is not told or shown to anyone else.
so the book is secret.
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Slideshows at the Meetings
by Nosferatu indoes anyone remember the great relief when we would have a slideshow from some travelling goon at the meetings?
i always enjoyed this since it was way more interesting than finding scriptures in the bible.
as time progressed, they seemed to quit doing this.
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SadElder
We knew a brother from Florida who did a really nice talk about young people, Used two slide projectors and hundreds and hundreds of slides. That was many years ago when one could still give talks on any subject without an outline from Brooklyn. I must admit that that talk was the best one we ever saw and it was not from Brooklyn. Eventually the CIA at Brooklyn put a stop to all made up talks, now only outlines from Brooklyn are used. Some of them are terrinle.
The congregations could benefit from some forward thinking teaching programs not the drival that is still being thrown around, teaching the way they have for a hundred years. Bring back some good slide presentations, use videos, overhead projectors, etc. Teach not spew words.
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If you could be WTS President, would you?
by freedom96 inenglishman posted a humorous question regarding who would make a good wts president.. i would like to take this one step further, on a more serious note.. if you had the chance, would you step in as president, and make the appropriate changes?
lets just say for aruguements sake, that as president, you alone could make all the changes.
you could change the blood issue, df'ing, all sorts of stuff.
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SadElder
Nope.
The President of the WTS is now little more than a puppet of a shell corporation. He has no influence in setting policy or doctrine. The other corporations that exist are as far as I can see just part of a shell game to hide money and limit liability. The GB and the "helpers" are the ones who are responsible for what policy decisions are made.
Ted Jaracz has great influence in what happens inside the congregations and the spirit of the traveling men. He is known among other GB members as "The Boss" The general leaning is one of a "benevolent dictatorship", words that have been actually uttered by some in high positions.
Jesus is head of man not other men.
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JW suspect in triple murder
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.wftv.com/news/2684618/detail.html
police name suspect in triple murder
posted: 6:40 a.m. est december 5, 2003
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SadElder
We're in Florida working on our new retirement house.
Channel 2 one of the local Orlando chennels here reported just minutes ago that the man (Carresquillo) arrested for the murders has confessed. Reportedly he did it as a human sacrifice as demanded by the devil. The man's own mother was so afraid of him that she stayed in a half way house until he was found. The man had been a repeated resident of a local mental health facility here (Orlando area).
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[title revised] "Spare The Rod..." in scripture?
by sf inyou know, the other day i found myself in a 'uh?
' moment when i heard something that i never knew and/ or was led to believe in order to behave accordingly.
so i did a search (go figure.
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SadElder
Pardon me while I stand on my soap box for a second.
Today's society has taken this stand that discipline is a bad thing. I don't mean beating the hell out of kids, but general correction, etc. Our teachers are afraid to give correction lest the offended parent come storming in demanding a reason why their poor little Susie or Johnny has been corrected. We now have a whole generation of parents who think their kids can do no wrong and heaven help anyone who dares correct their little perfect darlings. What ever happened to "it takes a whole village to raise a child"?
In my day we didn't have kids gunning down other students and themselves. A little smack on the behind is just what today's kids need and maybe the parents too, Call me an old fogie, but my kids (who DID get a pop or two) have grown up well adjusted, not on Prozac, graduated college, two from med school, one raising great well behaved grand kids (who I can assure you get a pop on the backside should it be necessary) and I didn't kill any of them, nor ever needed to.
So now let me get down off my soap box, I have to go throw up,
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Elders Threaten To Tow Elderly Sister's Car For Parking In Handicapped Area
by minimus inmy mother told me that an 81 year old sister was told that if she was not legally handicapped and had the plate to prove it----the police could come into the parking lot and have her car towed!
when she mentioned that there are more spaces available and not used and that she regularly transports another handicapped person that does not drive, they reiterated the same comments about it being against the law to park her car there and that she could get fined , ticketed and towed......so, she stayed home the next meeting.
now, she's going to ask her "unbelieving, worldy" husband who is also in his 80's if he'd be willing to give her and her friend a ride, especially as the weather will get worse and her eyes are not very good to begin with.......interesting, huh?
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SadElder
Actually the elders were doing a good thing (for a change) to protect her from a ticket. In this state it's a $150 fine for the first offense. You must display a hang tag from your mirror indicating that you have the proper handicap permit. I doubt the elders would call the police, but who knows. Here the police have a special detail assigned to look for handicap parking scoflaws.
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Watchtower to build residential towers in DUMBO area of Brooklyn
by Dogpatch innew york daily news - http://www.nydailynews.com
http://www.nydailynews.com/boroughs/story/135859p-120938c.html
to watch towers rise .
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SadElder
I was the president of the corporation that owns the local KH until I resigned as an elder about 2.5 years ago. There was no provision for the WTS to own the KHall property. The local corporation was made up of elders and ministerial servants. Provisions were made for the replacement of officers in the case of death or as in my case resignation. The WTS was never mentioned in any of the corporate documents or on the deed. There is no way that the WTS could come in and take over ownership of the property unless the local congregation agreed.
I have been in a number of congregations and served on the boards of several of the corporations. The above mentioned procedure was in effece in all cases that I personally know.
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How can I get my JW publisher card back from those $%* JERKS!
by NaruNaruChan ini've heard stories of people finding a way to get their publisher card back... is it possible?
if so, how can i get mine back?
i want to know what those pricks have written in there.
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SadElder
The Bethel CIA (AKA Service Dept.) has moved to fancier digs at Patterson. Files, upon files, upon files. They have stuff going back forever on lots of people. Especially if they have it in for someone. I understand now that if someone writes in, the document is immediately scanned and any thing else written by the same person is immediately available for recall and review. Haven't seen this in action myself, just read a branch report from someone about it. Big Mother is watching.
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How can I get my JW publisher card back from those $%* JERKS!
by NaruNaruChan ini've heard stories of people finding a way to get their publisher card back... is it possible?
if so, how can i get mine back?
i want to know what those pricks have written in there.
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SadElder
Per instructions from Bethel CIA (AKA Service Dept.) all records and letters are to be kept locked at the KH. Confidential records, committee cases are to be kept under lock as well. Elders are not supposed to have them in their homes. Elders serving on committees are to turn in their notes on the case at the end of each meeting to the committee chairman. Once the case is concluded all extraneous notes are to be destroyed. Only exception is publisher cards, which may be kept by the Secretary.
Someday someone will get the US Branch for all the clandestine files they keep. The Brits have it right with the Data Protection Act.
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who has the highest "rank" on here
by stillajwexelder inok - some of this may be personal and some may not want to answer - -i know there are loads of ex-elders and one or two serving elders on this board, there is at least onn ex-missionary on here also -- are there any ex cos dos branch -- there is obviously at laest 1 ex-bethelite -- can some one clue me in what "rank" sorry to use that phrase it truly angers me really -- are people who are able to speak on this board
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SadElder
The "highest rank" should be a publisher since elders are supposed to be servants not big shots. Of course we know the reality of it don't we?