WANNAEXIT you have a P.M.
You can make the translation for me.
leisurely...no problem
I understand that time is short
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
WANNAEXIT you have a P.M.
You can make the translation for me.
leisurely...no problem
I understand that time is short
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
yes,even you,tell part of the truth.......but you are too tied up with ideas of the past!!
Your ideas are no longer current, I speak of today's reality in the people of God.
Has opened a new phase......THE HEALTY PART of the true organization of God,is living and active
THE DISEASED PART of the organization has its days numbered.
THIS IS IT (HOW)
OH.....you have to compliment me to write in your own language
OK
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
THe hamburger is good ,.....but italian spaghetti and pizza with mozzarella is better !!!!
italians do not need a chef......all italians people know how to cook.
Yes
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
yes, the cancer can be cured with Chemioterapy and good style of life
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
Oh YES...ahahah...oh yes....we know that some former Jehovah's Witnesses,acrimony and would destroy the watchtower.
But not everyone thinks like you. We do not want to destroy but we want to renovate
The 4 PILLARS of the reform will be
1 REFORMING THE SYSTEM OF APPOINTMENTS
2 REFORM OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM
3 REFORM LEADERSHIP
4 DRASTIC REDUCTION OF BUREAUCRAZY
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
The Reformation has already begun,and no one can stop it !!!
Is already shared by hundreds of thousands of brothers.
Within 2-3 years...............remember these words!!!!
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
for information this blog in italian
i know that this has been discussed in the past but i wanted to get some fresh opinions.
there are many out there that recognize the "rot" that is in watchtower but still feel that there is a "wholesome" side to it and are trying to bring about change or reform from within.. in 2002 when the rose colored glasses came off for me and i truly started to understand ttatt, i still felt that there was some redemable aspects of the organization.. i felt that russell had some doctrinal things right.
i don't feel like that anymore.
yes for me
All the president of watchtower were Reformists !!
The reforms are not from the top to down,but from the bottom upwards.........(english italian google translate)
The reforms are ideas,the men are influenced by the ideas,sharing ideas propagates from the BASE to the summit.
Jehovah's people can make Lobby,in the organization.
my English does not allow me to talk a lot and I'm sorry
this just posted on a jw reform board at this link:.
http://meletivivlon.com/2013/10/13/remember-those-who-instructed-you/#comment-4950.
see acts 20:26-28.. if we do not speak out now, at this time, then no elder in any body of elders from around the world, will be able to repeat the words of paul, with a clear conscience.
this is not a good way of thinking.
First the J.W. are not a sect but an organized religion.
This was reaffirmed by the European Court of Human Rights. C.E.D.U.
Speaking of sect is not correct ,is an insult and is dangerous to use this language ,do not you think ?
If you are for justice, must be shared and available to all bilaterally .
Oh,oh,oh.... my english is improving ?!?!
Ciao
this just posted on a jw reform board at this link:.
http://meletivivlon.com/2013/10/13/remember-those-who-instructed-you/#comment-4950.
see acts 20:26-28.. if we do not speak out now, at this time, then no elder in any body of elders from around the world, will be able to repeat the words of paul, with a clear conscience.
ok excuse me ....thank you for the ......i read guideline 8 .
this is the post in english translate :
...are surrounded,they'll do anything,....come up with reforms in hand!!!!!!
Stop donation as long as there will be TRAnSPARENCY and RESPONSiBILITY
GREETINGS