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Bible Students Question
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i've know ttatt for over three years.

stopped going to meetings three months ago.

i recently contacted the bible students.
lambsbottom

Thanks everyone, for the responses!

Yes, I successfully woke up spouse. He/she was actually fully out before me! Go figure! I guess I just couldn't let it go. Last straw for me was learning what Russell ACTUALLY taught. I then realized that Rutherford was the apostate!

Kids are small. Im keeping all the old bound volumes I have in storage, just in case extended family tried to sell them on this cult!

Regarding fading, it is easy for me. Me and my family moved out of state a couple years ago. I kinda pulled my wife with me but it was the best thing for me. Went to meetings here for about a year and a half. But, Elders here are so overworked and constantly move in and out of the halls, they didnt even notice or come after me. Thanks God!

To anyone that still believes in God, please pray for the lost souls that are JWs. They truly are captives of a concept. May we heap fiery coals upon their head with our behavior.
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Bible Students Question
by lambsbottom in
1. jw
2. friends
i've know ttatt for over three years.

stopped going to meetings three months ago.

i recently contacted the bible students.
lambsbottom

Okay y'all,

I've know TTATT for over three years. Stopped going to meetings three months ago. I recently contacted the Bible Students. Very nice people Have to admit that I am paranoid about cults, though. I have been told by one of the Bible Students that many of them disagree on certain topics and that I don't HAVE to believe anything to associate with them. I still have much zeal for Jehovah and his son, even after being completely screwed by the JWs. With that being said, can anyone confirm that I don't have to believe anything in particular, with exception to the trinity being false, soul sleep, no burning hell, etc.? I've been fooled once! As I said to one of the Bible Students around here: I consider every group/religion a cult until proven innocent. Maybe not the most healthy but NEVER AGAIN will I give my mind to anyone but God! The Bible Students almost seem to good to be....well ya know! And don't worry, I wouldn't even dream of joining anything for a YEAR from now...if EVER!

I also much give a big shout out to this forum. I officially have successfully faded and no longer consider myself.....well ya know the rest! Y'all helped so much with questions, scans of articles, support, etc. And yes, I have written under different screen names over the past three years (never as a JW apologist, though). Sorry! Had to keep anonymous!

Another big thanks to JWFacts! This site gave my mind the FACTS it needed to wake the heck up, and not just "hey look at these subliminal messages in the WT". LOL

It is good to be finally out and free. Praise Jehovah and his son! May the poor souls in the JWs make their way out and taste freedom!
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Bible Students
by lambsbottom in
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lambsbottom

@Raphael:

You read all those LDS publications!

Could have been time better spent! jkjkjk lol

Much love, just messing with ya!
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Bible Students
by lambsbottom in
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2. bible
lambsbottom

This thread is getting really good. I cannot believe that the JWs dont know what Russell really taught!
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Bible Students
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lambsbottom

ptt7000:

Wow! Ok. So your saying you were young and naive and left the BS because of your parents/grandparents?

Can you direct me towards information Revelation 19 being figurative? It speaks of the birds gorging themselves on the flesh of free and slave, large and small. It seems most mainstream Christians believe this is literal and is when Jah will kill everyone not faithful.

Love your site!
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Bible Students
by lambsbottom in
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2. bible
lambsbottom

@ ptt7000:

You left the BS to become a JW? Why the heck did you do that? Were you convinced by something particularly? Because hell, the whole ransom for all strikes me as making complete sense. Again, why would faithful JWs make it through tribulation just to be tested again at 1,000 years?
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Bible Students
by lambsbottom in
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2. bible
lambsbottom

Hi everyone,

So I have made contact with the Bible Students (Russell's followers). Nice people. Teachings seem a lot more reasonable than JWs.

They believe that Jesus died for all (Hebrews 2:9). They believe that armageddon is not where any are destroyed, but when the wicked clergy & governments are removed. Pretty much everyone is pardoned their sin due to Christ's sacrifice.

Then, during the 1,000 year reign, everyone learns about God and chooses whether they want to serve him. Sounds very merciful.

Then the wicked, along with Satan, undergo second death (death forever).

They also believe the 144K are a special group of ones called from Earth that obtain a special prize. The "great crowd" is also Christians in heaven, though they constitute a mercy class. These ones missed the special prize to become one of the 144K, but God allows a place for them in Heaven.

I think that if most JWs knew these teachings, they would bail out of WT!

Any thoughts?
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Great Crowd Bible Question
by lambsbottom in
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reasoning book says:.

*** rs p. 167 heaven ***.

do those of the great crowd referred to at revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?.
lambsbottom

Thanks!
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Great Crowd Bible Question
by lambsbottom in
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reasoning book says:.

*** rs p. 167 heaven ***.

do those of the great crowd referred to at revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?.
lambsbottom

Phizzy:

Thanks.

Where does it say that the "Great Crowd" take advantage of Christ's blood in Revelation? That would help a lot! Thanks
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Great Crowd Bible Question
by lambsbottom in
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reasoning book says:.

*** rs p. 167 heaven ***.

do those of the great crowd referred to at revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?.
lambsbottom

Thanks y'all.

Yes, I have researched and see that the great crowd are in the inner temple. Thanks JWfacts!

But, the WT throws it for a loop when it says:

Reasoning Book says:

*** rs p. 167 Heaven ***
Do those of the “great crowd” referred to at Revelation 7:9, 10 also go to heaven?
Revelation does not say of them, as it does of the 144,000, that they are “bought from the earth” to be with Christ on heavenly Mount Zion.—Rev. 14:1-3.

I have been having some discussions with the Bible Students regarding this and they still gotta get back to me with research. Is the great crowd also "bought" from earth, even though it only mentions that the 144K are?