Christian religions do not want for humanity to improve, they thrive in suffering. They need ignorance and poverty, because this give them a reason to exist. Improvement will come either afterlife or with Armageddon. If science can cure diseases, feed more people, prolong quality of life, and minimize impact of natural disasters, it makes Christian religion obsolete. Therefore, religion opposes science, because it fears losing its importance.
Posts by kaik
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81The Old Age
by Caupon inso now that most of us have come to a semi truthful understanding that the witnesses are wrong about evolutionist, there is a certain question that i have always had.
now if you were to ask any jw, they'd recite a complete fallacy from scientist regarding this.
but what is you guys input of this.
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Kick Back and Relax to Some Music
by Finkelstein inthat's right folks time to kick back , pour a cold one and in take in some tunes.. what are you listening to right now ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu87294pvx8.
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kaik
When I am stressed at work due tight deadlines and people are harassing me with questions, I listen to classical music. I listen to Vivaldi, Smetana, or Bach.
I like techno. When I am in Europe, I try to get to some techno music gathering. I also like 1980's music.
I have childhood memory of good Hungarian Czárdás because of my biological father.
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Help folks, class reunion 50 years
by James Mixon infor the last few days i have reviewing my class photos.
come up to you and said you don't remember me, do you.
at a funeral two years ago a. young lady came up to me and said , you don't remember me.
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I went to HS under communists. Because my father was stanch anti-communist who disliked Russians with passion, I was unable to go to HS anywhere in the county. I have to go to neighboring county because commies in my town would not let me graduate. My HS had excellent teachers. We had teachers who were anticommunists, and were unable to perform their job due government repression or purges. Our English teacher was a lady, who studied in UK, after her return she was forbidden to teach at the university and was shoveled into my HS. We had a scientist who was part of the team working on developing microwave ovens, but refused to collaborate with communist regime, and ended as our science teacher. We had these teachers who were extremely brilliant, but due political system, were forbidden to be in their field. Eventually, this HS was used as staging ground during Revolution. One of my teacher was arrested by secret police during the lectures, was hooded up and taken away with handcuffs, never seen there again by his students in the city.
If I would go to my HS reunion it would reminder me these turbulent years. Otherwise, I am not much interested to meet with my classmates and I do not think much about the place. Food was horrible, we had to carry our own mess tin and most of us were hungry during the classes. Sometimes we only got soup and bread for lunch. We had to work after HS. Definitely, I am not missing anything, except to be 18 years old.
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The Old Age
by Caupon inso now that most of us have come to a semi truthful understanding that the witnesses are wrong about evolutionist, there is a certain question that i have always had.
now if you were to ask any jw, they'd recite a complete fallacy from scientist regarding this.
but what is you guys input of this.
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kaik
But when we are talking about something that they say is possibly 65 million years old, and I meant million not billion, you cannot test that
Sure you can. Using numerous scientific approaches, you can estimate a time when KT extinction event (when "dinosaurs died") happened 65 million years ago with accuracy being already narrowed to +-8000 years since this impact. The argon-argon dating is pretty much standard, but not only one. 10 years ago the best universities in USA estimated the impact that caused KT extinction to +-40000, but we have better equipment to measure radioactive decay. Also these dating are based on statistical calculation after numerous measures to ensure a confidence interval easily explained by mathematics.
I am in Earth Science field although I am not geologist, but developer of IT systems used in this field, I can tell you that there is nothing much complicated to date geological features old 65 million years.
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The end of the age or the end times what did the Bible writers mean?
by Crazyguy inthere are plenty of scriptures pointing to the idea that the end was near according to the scriptures way back then.
example at act chapter 2 peter states were in the last days, at 1john chapter 2 in the last hour.
jesus stated he would be back before some of that generation died and of course the famous quote 'this generation'.
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kaik
The end of the ages, or end of time is Greek concept; it is not Jewish origin. Jews believe in Time to Come, or arrival of the Messiah King and the start of Messianic age. There is no violent end of the world. The belief of humanity divided into ages and its violent age, is Greco-Roman. Greeks believed in golden, silver age, and these invented lost past times where in their mind destroyed by clashes between gods, which eventually destroyed the Earth. This belief was known to early Christians who transformed the idea of lost golden era of humanity into their Christian theology, and they believed that the violent end at the hands of Christian god will user another golden, righteous era for humanity. I am not sure who was the original proponent of this idea outside John of Patmos, but the idea of end of times and end of age is well resonated in the writing of St. Augustine in his monumental work City of God.
Since late antiquity, Christianity was obsessed with the idea of end of age and end of time, until Catholic church forbade it as heretical teaching. The crackdown against doomsday beliefs started already during Schism in the 14th century, and was finally considered as heresy by the time of Reformation. However, the torch of the doomsday scenario was transferred to Protestantism which produced numerous doomsday cults in Anglo-Saxon world including JWs.
If anyone studies the end of time hysteria and hypes since the Roman Empire to the end of the Middle Ages, there was a strong belief that the End is here and new Golden age of humanity will arrive shortly. When Alaric sacked Rome in 410 hundreds of thousands Christians saw it as a sign of the End. Similar mass hysteria happened in 1000AD or 1419. At the end, the end of age and end of time means nothing. Catholic church knew it already 500 years ago.
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Help folks, class reunion 50 years
by James Mixon infor the last few days i have reviewing my class photos.
come up to you and said you don't remember me, do you.
at a funeral two years ago a. young lady came up to me and said , you don't remember me.
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kaik
I did not went to any of my HS reunion. I even turned down my 25th one down. I really do not care seeing my HS acquaintances. While I had a good time in HS and I had great teaches, it is not that important to me see people who I have not seen since my graduation.
My mom had her 60th years reunion and she went there. Her classmates were there as well. The most interesting she had meeting with two of her teachers! One guy was almost 100 years old, while other woman was mid 90's.
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October Surprise?
by kairos inwhy the anticipation?.
"no one knows the day or hour", i thought?.
i knew this very mentally unstable jw woman years ago.
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Magnum, I do not know. She will get depressed, apathy will settle in, until the next hype. I called her last weekend, and she was with elderette in field service, and politely hang up on me that she does not have time to talk to me because more people need to be saved. -
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October Surprise?
by kairos inwhy the anticipation?.
"no one knows the day or hour", i thought?.
i knew this very mentally unstable jw woman years ago.
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My biological JW sister called me on Oct 1 to tell me that "A" will happen this month because elder told her so. I get very seldom any calls from my family and she did not talk to me for several years after I walked away from WT. Her question was if I am not afraid to be killed in next several days. I told her that I do not care. JWs get always hyped up on October as month where doom should happen.
We used to have one pioneer woman in the KH where entire conversation with her revolved around Armageddon will be here. In her later years, she got so crazy, that she was institutionalized. She would sometime open doors or windows of her house and scream into the street that "Armageddon will be here shortly." Any case, she died in old age without going through Armageddon, except her personal end.
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Found Nephew. Sisters incredible reaction.
by umbertoecho ini won't make this long.
i went out again and found him.
got in through the back door, pushed him to wake up, got him out, fed him, watered him and said he was family and i have a plan.. we talked all day, i let him do what he does, in order not to scare him about the future change that could happen for him.
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kaik
Sorry to read this sad story about your family and nephew. It would be crucial if your nephew severe ties with his mother until he gets enough help and strength to be on his own. He would need a mental help dealing with abuse and brainwashing from cult. Good luck. -
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The Governing Body And What Extremes They Will Go To In Causing Human Suffering To Keep A Delusional Dream Alive
by Brokeback Watchtower inthe dream stage of wishful thinking eventually crashes with reality and slowly turns to the nightmare stage do you see the predicament the gb is in and what extremes they cause in human suffering for their followers that they are willing to put them thru?
please feel free to vent on these maniacs.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wishful_thinking.
the fantasy cycle ... a pattern that recurs in personal lives, in politics, in history and in storytelling.
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kaik
I would not say autopilot, because the people at the top of the apex know exactly what they doing and what is beneficial to them. They can care less what is happening below the clouds. They direct the organization where they want it (most of the time). Delusional are the members who live in wishful thinking that Armageddon is behind the corner, and a New World is arriving shortly.
GB can go to any extreme they want. Totalitarian governments do that. Since 1950's more than 50,000 JWs died due their blood policy. GB does not care. They present them to its public as a martyr for the Truth. These men are charlatans and they know exactly what they doing. Do not underestimate the illusion they created. While the delusion is a strong part of any totalitarian regime, they have worshipers, followers, live of idle luxury and free of criminal prosecution. Once any of these pillar of the delusion cave is, they would have a problem.