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  Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

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  1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

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  Bobcat,
  re: "I'll let some one else take them."

  OK; anyone care to answer my questions in post #34 to Bobcat regarding his comments in post #33?
  
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  Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

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  Bobcat,

  re: "Believe as you want."

  OK, thank you.

  BTW, you have a couple of questions directed to you in my last post.
  
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  Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

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  Bobcat,
  re: "First, (in case you did not know) the Jewish day ran from sundown to sundown. (approx 6pm to 6pm)"
  

  I don't see the relevancy. Please explain.

  re: "Fri, 3pm Jesus dies and buried before sundown.
  

  Your comments are based on a 6th day of the week crucifixion, but nowhere does scripture state that.

  re: " With our modern time keeping and dependence in life on precision in our time keeping, this appears to us to be an egregious mis-counting of time."
  

  Why mention today's time keeping? We're talking about the first century.
  

  re: "But to Jesus' listeners (with not a single watch or calendar among them)..."
  

  They didn't need a watch or calendar to tell them when it was daytime or night time.
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  Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

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  Bobcat,
  re: "I do understand that in the account of Jesus' death and resurrection there were not three actual days and nights involved."

  I'm not aware of any scripture that shows that. What do you have in mind?
  
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  Friday crucifixion?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
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  it is my understanding that jws believe that the crucifixion occurred on friday.

  however, luke 24:21 would seem to indicate that it couldn't have occurred any later than thursday.

  how do you explain the seeming discrepancy?

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  EverApostate,
  re: "Even if Jesus was real and he was crucified on a Friday, so what ?"

  
  

  The 'what' would be that His authority could be questioned since He wasn't in the "heart of the earth" for the length of time that He said He would be.
  
  
  
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  Friday crucifixion?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is my understanding that jws believe that the crucifixion occurred on friday.

  however, luke 24:21 would seem to indicate that it couldn't have occurred any later than thursday.

  how do you explain the seeming discrepancy?

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  rstrats

  EverApostate,
  re: "Even if Jesus was real and he was crucified on a Friday, so what ?"
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  Friday crucifixion?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is my understanding that jws believe that the crucifixion occurred on friday.

  however, luke 24:21 would seem to indicate that it couldn't have occurred any later than thursday.

  how do you explain the seeming discrepancy?

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  peacefulpete

  re: "So you have seen a discrepency between verses now what?"

  I never said I see a discrepancy between verses. What do you have in mind?
  

  
  
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  Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

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  rstrats

  Bobcat,
  Thanks for the link, but I'm afraid it doesn't provide any examples which show where a daytime or a night time was forecast or said to be involved with an event when no part of the daytime or no part of the night time could have occurred.
  
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  Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

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  David_Jay,
  re: "All the other stuff you wrote is just Gentile/Christian/Gregorian calendar fluff."

  Where did I write anything about Gentile/Christian/Gregorian calendar matters?
  
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  Common Figure of Speech/Colloquialism?

  by rstrats in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1. the messiah said that three nights would be involved with his time in the "heart of the earth".. 2. there are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.. 3. of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.. 4. however, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.. 5. to account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.. 6. in order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.. 6. for the purpose of this topic, i would like to ask if there are any 6th day of the week crucifixion advocates who think the messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period?.

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  MrRoboto,
  You have a question directed to you in post #23.