OMG, I’m gonna get Old and Die.

by John Aquila in

when it finally clicked,.

and you realized there was no 1914, there was no generation that would see the end of a wicked system, there was no paradise around the corner, .

what went through you mind?.

shadow

1 Corinthians 15:16-19 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

16 For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised; 17 and if Christ has not been raised, your faith is worthless; you are still in your sins. 18 Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied.

I used to have ALL the answers, now I'm not sure if I have ANY answers. I still reject evolution as illogical. If I believed it then life would be utterly futile both as individuals and as a species. So, I choose to still believe in God and hope there is more than this life, though I'm getting old and probability of death is greatly increased.

It's hard for me to understand why there are so many atheists\evolutionists on this board. Makes me wonder how much faith was there in the first place. Humans are so feeble and insignificant, to pretend to have the intelligence to rule out creation and existence of creator seems the height of hubris. I think I'd be in total despair if I accepted their opinions.

Sure, I'm convinced about some parts of TTAT but not giving up on the basics of hoping for a new world. Feel free to call me a fool for it.

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

shadow

An imperfect, family destroying, fact hiding, dual standard, money grabbing, fault finding organization is very much problematic when trying to worship god with "spirit and truth".

and yet whenever humans are involved that result is inevitable

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The poor and deprived life of JW children.

by Esse quam videri in

i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.

i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.

we went to meetings.

shadow

i didn't have a pony

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The poor and deprived life of JW children.

by Esse quam videri in

i find it hard to believe that adults on this forum make such a big deal about not celebrating birthdays, x-mas, easter, halloween, etc, etc, etc.

i grew up as a jw kid and it actually made me feel good, being different from the other kids in school.

we went to meetings.

shadow

Esse quam videri,

I agree with you

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

shadow

OMG!

depressed,

Don't you believe you're going to die??? If your view is that there is no God then everyone is going to die soon anyway (as within their own short human lifespan).

Were you ever actually a JW?? You don't remember that Peter said Satan was a roaring lion??

You just proved my point that condemning the speaker's statement is condemning all other Christians. I'm glad you finally agree.

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

shadow

depressed,

You're going to die anyway so what difference does it make if you die a few years earlier at Armageddon?

Anyway, I have only been commenting on what the speaker said and everyone reading into it crap that isn't there. Capiche?

flipper,

I guess you don't know yourself very well. You traded one set of blinders for another. Maybe someday you'll take off your new set

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

shadow

1. I don't need anyone to educate me about how damaging child abuse is. I came from an abusive family myself but it wasn't sexual abuse. So I grew up with it. I've also spent the last 25 years dealing with the damage done to my own kids by a pedophile. So you can take your comments that I "don't get it" and stick them you know where.

2. For those who still believe in God and Satan, Satan is a greater threat than a pedophile. That is what the speaker said. Anything else is your own conjecture. You see what you want to see even when it isn't there.

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

shadow

thedepressedsoul

Also, if you have a kid and anything remotely comes close to someone taking advantage of them, feel free to let me know how "temporary" it is.

As a matter of fact I DO have a kid that was attacked for years by a pedophile, you jackass. It destroys kids and parents. It lasts as long as they live and many times ends up in suicide. If this life is all there is, then maybe suicide is a pretty good option. I still hope there's something better. Anything else you want to know???

flipper & outlaw:

I don't have the time or inclination to help your reading comprehension. Maybe you can understand this:

WT policy has hurt a lot of people but it's stupid to turn it into a joke with ridiculous criticism of a talk and make a connection that isn't there.

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

shadow

Outlaw,

The statement by the speaker which is being criticized is:

"There is something even more dangerous then that pedophile living across the street to your children..." "Satan the devil is after your children, something even more dangerous then that pedophile!"

THAT is the statement this thread is based on. It is not:

Pointing out the WBT$ "Actively Protects" WBT$ JW Pedophiles..

Christians would generally agree with that statement which implies that eternal damage is greater than temporary damage no matter how painful it is. To condemn that statement would condemn other Christians as well. And, yes, I do have first-hand knowledge about child abuse.

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Satan is more dangerous then pedophile - Assembly Part

by thedepressedsoul in

i am sitting at the recent assembly, bored out of my mind (have you ever heard anyone call these things fun?

) and the next speaker walks out on stage.

he starts off with an illustration.

shadow

The statement is true for those of us who still believe Bible, however need to protect against both. Child is still dead whether killed by pitbull or lion.

Condemning this statement = condemning all Christians.

shadow

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1 Corinthians 15:16-19 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

I agree with you