Calvinist02,
Glad you liked it, Spurgeon is one of my favorite writers. It would have been nice to actually hear one of the sermons he gave in the 1800s.
I have about a thousand of these messages from Spurgeon on my one Bible program.
So, you were a JW? What brought you to the Truth?
I was never a JW, but I have dealt with them before. It's beyond me how they continue to cling to their false doctrines after you show them right out of the Bible where they're wrong.
I am thankful I had the privilege of growing up a Baptist and in a good home. But just because one has a good influence doesn't mean he is saved.
Although I have no one to blame but myself, public school had a terrible influence on me. I cussed and swore, and had many secret sins that were just as heinous. I completely went against all the things that were taught to me as a child. Was I saved? Well, I must have prayed the sinners prayer a hundred times; it didn't seem to have a whole lot of effect on me.
Looking back, it is really is hard to tell. I had no joy in my sins; in fact, I was completely miserable. God has a way of pricking your heart, I fought it, but who can resist the Lord? God, after a few years, by His grace and Sovereign will, pulled me back in the other direction.
I realized during one church service that my salvation isnt based on feelings, as I was trusting before. I knew this; I must have heard a million times - but it never sank in. We are to repent,
believe, and trust in the Lord. If we do that, then were saved! Not because of feelings, but because God promises so in His word -- and God cannot lie. It is so simple, yet so easily missed.
The Lord is still dealing with me, as He will do until the day I die to be with Him. The Lord and I both know I'm a real piece of work, and there is a lot of molding still to be done my life.
God bless
Your Brother in Christ,
Michael
Awaiting the trumpet.
Philippians 4:7 "And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus."
SwedishChef
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Calvinism
by Calvinist02 inthe basic 5 points of calvinism.
1. total depravity- all men are sinners.
we are totally corrupt and wicked.
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The Judgment Day
by Calvinist02 inwhat are you going to do when you get judged before the lord.... romans 2:12 .
"for all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law.".
revelation 20:13.
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Revelation 6:15,17 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
Matt 24:29,30 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
The ONLY WAY to escapte the judgment you deserve is to have the blood of the Lamb applied to your heart. Jesus is the ONE and ONLY way.
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by Calvinist02 inthe basic 5 points of calvinism.
1. total depravity- all men are sinners.
we are totally corrupt and wicked.
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CoolBreeze,
I posted that reading because I think it is a good piece of writing. Although is has nothing to do with the topic, I just thought maybe some Christians might enjoy reading it. :-)Anyway,
Convincing you of the truth is a task I cannot do. Salvation is God's work, and if you've read my other posts, then you've read the Gospel. I have done all that I can do, I cannot open your heart to accept the wonderful message of Jesus Christ. You must come to Him, coolbreeze. Truly study the Bible and take its meaning to heart. From my experience, I can vouch that it is not disappointing.
Your mindset reflects those of countless others, coolbreeze. I don't believe that your intensions are evil, in fact you seem like a perfectly delightable person. I have said this before and will say it again, I am not trying to be smug or arrogant (as some here have claimed), please do not take me this way. I am telling this to as sincerely as possible, because I believe it and know it to be so. God's Word says:Matthew 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
Matthew 7:13 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:"You see, we can't all be right. One must be right, and the rest must be wrong. There are no gray areas. Either the Bible is right, or it is a complete farce. Which will you choose, the way of life, or the way of destruction?
Sincerely, Michael
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Calvinism
by Calvinist02 inthe basic 5 points of calvinism.
1. total depravity- all men are sinners.
we are totally corrupt and wicked.
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SwedishChef
"Ye are Christ's."-1 Corinthians 3:23
Ye are Christ's." You are His by donation, for the Father gave you to the Son; His by His bloody purchase, for He counted down the price for your redemption; His by dedication, for you have consecrated yourself to Him; His by relation, for you are named by his name, and made one of His brethren and joint-heirs. Labour practically to show the world that you are the servant, the friend, the bride of Jesus. When tempted to sin, reply, "I cannot do this great wickedness, for I am Christ's." Immortal principles forbid the friend of Christ to sin. When wealth is before you to be won by sin, say that you are Christ's, and touch it not. Are you exposed to difficulties and dangers? Stand fast in the evil day, remembering that you are Christ's. Are you placed where others are sitting down idly, doing nothing? Rise to the work with all your powers; and when the sweat stands upon your brow, and you are tempted to loiter, cry, "No, I cannot stop, for I am Christ's. If I were not purchased by blood, I might be like Issachar, crouching between two burdens; but I am Christ's, and cannot loiter." When the siren song of pleasure would tempt you from the path of right, reply, "Thy music cannot charm me; I am Christ's." When the cause of God invites thee, give thy goods and thyself away, for thou art Christ's. Never belie thy profession. Be thou ever one of those whose manners are Christian, whose speech is like the Nazarene, whose conduct and conversation are so redolent of heaven, that all who see you may know that you are the Saviour's, recognizing in you His features of love and His countenance of holiness. "I am a Roman!" was of old a reason for integrity; far more, then, let it be your argument for holiness, "I am Christ's!"
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by Calvinist02 inthe basic 5 points of calvinism.
1. total depravity- all men are sinners.
we are totally corrupt and wicked.
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Sangdigger,
Amen brother. Thanks for the words of encouragement. It's not often I'm agreed with for my trust in the Bible. I'm sure the case is the same with you and with Calvinist02.
In a world where Christianity, the Bible, and even simple morals are under constant attack, we Bible believing Christians have to stick together!"God has done all he can do, now its up to you to do the rest."
I have heard this many times myself, but I can't say I've ever heard this one:
"Poor God, he's trying to save you and you wont let him."It is a disgrace when someone tries to make you feel sorry for God! We are the pitiful ones, whose righteousness is as filthy rags. Christ is the mighty champion of the cross, the Sovereign Lord and our Savior.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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Dakota,
"John 1:1 has also been shown to be a poor translation,"This is proof that you are the one turning a blind eye. Dakota, is that why almost every single translation says "the Word was God"?
Or is that why A.T. Robertson (world reknown Greek Scholar) said it was a proper translation? I don't see where you've shown it to be a poor translation.The Bible says to show yourself friendly, and calling people ignorant whiny fools is not a way to do that. When was the last time I called you an ingorant fool Dakota?
"Again, I notice your usual lack of debate etiquette. When your point is effectively refuted, you swiftly change the subject, turning a blind eye to said refutation. Within 10 posts, you will once again make claim that none of your points have been refuted. Poor skills, Swedie, poor skills."
Contrary to what you would like to believe, I am not turning a "blind eye" to your refutations. But am I supposed to argue with you that its a misinterpretation? That the verse is out of context? How much good do you think that would do? You will say that your interpretation is right, and I will say mine is.
The truth is I don't buy into your refutations; because to me, they are a clear misinterpretation of scripture. I regard them as such. I am not afraid to admit I'm wrong, and I have done so before, but you have given me no reason to do so.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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SwedishChef
Earnest,
"John 10:30 seems to say that two forms is sufficient to be one God."
The Holy Spirit is not being addressed in John chapter 10, Jesus was talking about Himself and the Father. Just because the Spirit is not mentioned doesn't mean He has no role.
I have a body and a mind, and these are one. That's a true statment, but does that mean I don't have a soul just because I didn't mention it? Would I be human if I had a body, mind, but no soul? No, I need all of these to be human. From passages I quoted in the past, the Holy Spirit is certainly a part of God.
"Does this mean that God is not only spirit but also partly human?"
The entire concept of Jesus being man and God at the same time is a mystery which we cannot fully comprehend, and yet it is what the Bible teaches.
"1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
Philippians 2:5-11 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." -
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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SwedishChef
Earnest,
The Father and Son are one, but God would not be God without the Holy Spirit. 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." The three make one God.
My personal interpretation of the Trinity:
The Father is the mind/will. Jesus is the manifestation of the will of the Father. "Word was with God...and Was God" John 1:1, Jesus is "the image of the invisible God" Col 1:15, "God was manifest in the flesh", I Tim 3:16, He does "the will of the Father which hath sent me." John 5:30.
The Holy Ghost is the very Spirit of God, the very power of Him.
Genesis 1:2 "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."
Job 33:4 "The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life."
I've already gone over how Jesus identified Himself with the Holy Ghost in John chapter 14.How can this be? God has manifested Himself in three forms, each presented to us as having personalities, and yet they are one God.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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SwedishChef
Can you explain any of the Old/New Testament comparisons that I made in the other post?
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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SwedishChef
"Oh my! You mean, there is an error in your KJV?"
I never said the KJV is perfect, I said it's the best one out there. Sure, on a few occasions a better word choice could have been used.
In light of Scripture, most theologists agree that Christ is the "source" or "beginner" of God's creation.
You said "Hebrews 1:1,2 show that God created THROUGH Jesus, not Jesus acting on his own."
This is true, but this explains the relationship within the Godhead. The Word is the manifestation of the will of the Father.
Colossians 1:16,17 "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."
John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."Jesus is the creator, and there was nothing that he didn't make. Try reading the Genesis account - one God made EVERTHING.
Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."
Isaiah 45:18 "For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else."
Isaiah 44:24, "Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"I think the Bible is pretty clear that the is ONE Creator. The Bible identifies Him as Jesus. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Anyone can see, Dekota, that if ONE person ALONE made something, than it did not take two, as you are saying.
If I am so easily decieved, then how do you explain these verses?
How about these:
Isaiah 45:23 "I [Jehovah] have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear."
Philippians 2:10,11 "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
See a similarity?
Zechariah 12:10 "And I [Jehovah] will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn."
Revelation 1:7,8 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."
Tell me, Dakota, how is it that in Zechariah 2:10 Jehovah himself says "they shall look upon me whom they have pierced"?
Revelation 1:7,8 perfectly reflects this passage in Zechariah.