This non ex-JW thought it a cruel and damaging message:
Presumably he's over-reacting too.
I'm sorry that some of us have upset the hierarchy of criticisms that we're allowed to lob at the JWs, I'll climb back into my box ;-)
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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video
by turtleturtle inhomophobia (m-w.com):.
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.
can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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I'm in favour of military action against homophobic extremists.
So, you don't do anything active in support of LGBTQ communities that are victims of hatred or violence?
I haven't spoken out of turn here. It's called freedom of speech. I won't be intimidated by you or anyone else.
Apologies if you feel intimidated, that's not my intent. I'm trying to understand motivation and close interest in LGBTQ persecution.
What have been the outcomes of these campaigns/discussions?
Most of the time it has been awareness raising but with a growing number of out politicians it's becoming a lot easier.
isn't there a danger of progressives outliving their usefulness when they tolerate gay people being killed by homophobic extremists?
It's this I don't understand. Who are these progressives that are tolerating the murder of gay people? Lack of opinion pieces in Pink News does not equal with toleration, and they certainly cover news of it although it's almost always difficult to verify the truth: are the individuals murdered even gay or is that just an excuse? ISIS trade in women is also appalling, are there enough opinion pieces on that to satisfy you?
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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I do support military action against homophobic extremists.
Interesting. How do you actually support military action?
However, it's not my job to raise the plight of victims of homophobic extremists.
So while doing hardly anything is it your job to tell others that they are not doing enough or not doing it properly?
What are you doing to raise the plight of vicitims of homophobic extremists?
I've met with and written to MPs and MEPs on the subject and campaigned to prevent gay asylum seekers being returned to dangerous countries. I probably don't do enough but I certainly don't go around pointing fingers at others telling them that they are doing it wrong.
And it's not my job to to it either.
Are you in direct contact with Pink News to tell them they aren't outraged enough?
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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video
by turtleturtle inhomophobia (m-w.com):.
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.
can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.
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The point is that he didn't think it was racist language just like some people want homophobia to be strictly defined as violence against or fear of. It's more subtle than that just like racism can be.
The JW cartoon provides the context that perpetuates stigma against same sex couples. Yes it's consistent with their past and their interpretation of the Bible but that doesn't make it any less depressing for anyone struggling to come to terms with their sexuality.
But Simon while I'm sure you will continue to see this as another overreaction, I wish you all the best.
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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video
by turtleturtle inhomophobia (m-w.com):.
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.
can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.
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My grandfather refused to accept that calling someone from Pakistan a "Paki" was unacceptable, he didn't think it was racist. By this one definition of racism, maybe it wasn't
Simple Definition of racism
: poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
: the belief that some races of people are better than others
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Maybe I'm Just Ignorant About the New "Anti-Gay" Video
by turtleturtle inhomophobia (m-w.com):.
: irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals.
can someone tell me, specifically, was homophobic about the new "anti-gay" wt video.
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Let's face it, there's a generational problem. Just like some elderly people struggle to identify racist language or attitudes, some people find it hard to understand homophobia. They usually quote the dictionary.
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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I'm delighted that the LGBT communities have such a passionate fellow traveler as you LUHE. Out of interest can I ask what else you are doing to raise the plight of victims of homophobia with people who can effect change? -
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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LUHE
any answers to
I'm really not clear what difference you think PN condemning Daesh atrocities in an opinion piece would make: will it stop them? Aren't the pictures chilling enough?
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Now finally Caleb & Sofia Anti-Gay Video going viral in Germany too
by Daniel1555 intoday spiegel online & bento have an article about the anti-gay video.. spiegel is one of the biggest and most serious news media in germany.. they also report and show that youtubers cut the video and changed it in a funny way.
sofia tells her mother that the teacher said it's fine if they live each other.
then sofia's mother says: "thats wonderful.".
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Of course it promotes the idea that homosexuality is not bible-approved and that is the real issue - but it's not news, not shocking...
Shunning isn't news or shocking either and every time the WT re-endorses it people are offended but are not told to calm down. And based on the media coverage the video is getting, it seems like it is actually news to non-JWs.