Posts by scotsman

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

if we're honest, there's a "hierarchy of death" - well, there seems to be a hierarchy among the liberal Media: Western gay people are worth more than gay people from other areas.
Originally, I cheekily asked if this was to do with racism but I don't think that is the case. But it's still to do with progressive politics and progressives' skewed view of the world.
Weird, huh?

It's not weird, the West is racist.

But I'm really not clear what difference you think PN condemning Daesh atrocities in an opinion piece would make: will it stop them? Aren't the pictures chilling enough?

And why are you more interested in the coverage of Daesh atrocities than others?

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

I don't agree. The images that Pink News share of gay men being thrown from buildings need absolutely no companion opinion piece for Western consumption

You also seem to be wilfully ignoring the audience of Pink News. It's discrimination on their doorstep they are concerned with (just as all news is skewed to the local or identifiable) hence Trump/gay marriage etc. And some gay people in the West live lives experiencing very little homophobia so there is shock when it occurs. It's not a shock to learn that Daesh throw people of buildings given their consistently barbarous activity.

In my line of work I've spoken with the Institute of Strategic Dialogue about the reporting of atrocities and they believe that Daesh thrive on the type of reporting you want to see.

And hideously, if we're honest, there's a "hierarchy of death": we obsess over the Middle East but show less interest in what's happening in the DRC.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

How is reporting on the Daesh executions "brushing it under the carpet"?

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

And I asked if you thought their teaching never 'sometimes lead to... expressions of hostility"?

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

But Cofty you keep denying that the JWs are homophobic but admitting there are degrees of homophobia. Are the JWs not somewhere on the homophobic spectrum?

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

I realise I just trivialised my own experience. Being asked if I was a poof by some Witnesses made me feel completely ill. And the long periods of depression I experienced in my twenties were related directly to the JW teachings on sexuality. Yes, other faiths have similar briefs but I wasn't a Mormon etc etc

But hey, at least I wasn't being thrown of a building or beheaded.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

sometimes leading to acts of violence and expressions of hostility.

Really, you don't think the teaching of the WT sometimes leads to expressions of hostility? I found being referred to as a poof by some JWs a bit hostile.

I'd agree that there are degrees of homophobia from ISIS to the Salvation Army. Maybe you find the homophobia of the JWs to be a more tasteful grey than ISIS black but I can't help but reflect that the gentle homophobia played a part in the suicide of the two gay (celibate) JWs I knew.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

Thanks SBF.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

scotsman

I'm a self identified gay man and I'd describe the Bible, the JWs and their literature as homophobic.

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Shooting in the foot (homophobic video)

by Syme in

with the newly released homophobic video by the wts, it gets clearer that those people can't stop shooting themselves in the foot.

they are already under examination and de facto trial by the australian committee; more and more people and officials in western democracies inquire into their abusive tactics and put them under the microscope, and what do they do?

they release a video which confirms those worries.

scotsman

Nothing wrong with struggling to understand another's perspective, it shows effort, but it's probably more productive not to jump to conclusions, start calling names or use inflammatory language while in the process of learning.

I'm not calling anyone names or using inflammatory language but I'm quite at ease with anyone labelling the JWs homophobic, it was certainly my experience. I also understand why some people don't understand the reaction to the cartoon and keep labelling it an over-reaction.