Posts by Uzzah

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

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i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

Regarding the printing aspects of the branch, I have no idea abut current printing volumes. When i was there they had a single Harris 4 colour web for all the magazines and KMs. They had a few small offset presses for smaller run 2-colour printing jobs. I heard they were exp-anding to make room for a second 4-colour web press but never heard what kind.

Moving the printing to Canada was likely done as a cost savings measure.

Broken Promises:

Will I find love anytime soon? Not if you keep asking so many questions

Will my business venture flourish or collapse? Depends on your commitment and market volaitility

Will anyone close to me die this year? Unfortunately, the odds are yes we all will have to deal with that.

Where is that necklace that fell down the sink drain? Umm in the drain

Who really shot JR? Hated that show

Is the moon really made of cheese? Sounds gouda to me.

Will there ever be a remake of Bonanza? Odds are, Hollywood seems to be out of original ideas

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

I only have a couple of minutes before having to head out. So I will have to be brief for now.

Net worth of the Society? I have no idea. COnsidering the property they own and estates still coming in regularly it is probably larger than many country's GDP.

Mental illness. Depression and 'environmental allergies" seem to plague many Witnesses. Bethel is pretty hard on anyone less than 10 years who develop any kind of illness that could prevent them from doing their assignment. Unless of course they are in a prime position such as legal or Service desk overseer or on the Branch Committee (of course).

I have seen many a single brother and married couple 'encouraged' (read told) to leave. No support financially, just told to go home and hopefully the local congregation will step up to help.

The closest thing I can think of that is not really a Department is the Bethel Elder/Shepherding program especially for new Bethelites. These are more of a spy position and telling them what is acceptable or not. Making certain they don't miss morning worship etc.

If they have set up anything more beyond the normal infirmary and Bethel elder arrangement I would be very very surprised. That would require feelings and human emotion which isn't usually manifest within Bethel policy.

Marvin! Good to see you. We'll talk.

I am not familiar with US Tax law regarding charities but in Canada I know they have to submit a public tax filing each year that details money in, money spent in different manners including how much money left Canada to support other charities (including to the US). I would imagine there is something similiar in the US in order to maintain charitable status.

Oh and Shamus - Monkeys have bad breath and are actually reptilian aliens... I am outta here... LOL

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

I just listened to the first 4 minutes of the latest appearance of Johnny. It is just my opinion but the guy is either someone needing mental help or else a drunk trying to pull one over on the ex-JW community.

"I am being followed right now"

"I told them I want to leave but they said I can't because of what I kow." "They threatened my family"

This just doesn't happen. I helped write the frickin 1995 Watchtower article about the "Generation Change" and was privvy to all the discussions surrounding that change. I knew of many of the child abuse cases, cover ups and mishandlings. Yet when I said I wanted to leave, they all but drove me to the gate. Yet this kid, who claims to be involved in hacking/tracking (yet cannot explain what he did in any kind of technical manner) is so important they are looking to silence him? Yeah right.

This is all either paranoid delusions or intentional prank.

Anyone have any serious questions they want answered. I will check in tomorrow and answer as I can. Good night all.

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

I listened to part of the first broadcast when he first made his appearance. I did not listen to the most recent as it would be a waste of time based on what I heard the first time.

Claims of the underground bunkers, etc.

It is not the first hoax to be perpetrated on JWD/JWN nor will it be the last. Anyone else remember Danni?

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

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friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

The simple fact is that Bethel just doesn't care. Once people leave they are gone.

People who are still known as JW's are faced with nosey elders, Ministerial Servants and their wives who like to make other people's business their own. But I know from my days both at Bethel and as an Elder there is no campaign to search out people online aside from individual efforts.

The Internet was just coming of age when I was at bethel and there was HUGE paranoia about it. I was one of the first bethelites to have my own PC and Internet account. I had many friends at Watchtower Farms and within Canada IT and even back then there was no concentrated effort to seek out JW's online to track their activity.

Again, we would all like to think we matter to Bethel but we don't. They are so convinced about the rightness of their ways that they don't spend a moment's thought about our activity online unless it is somehow involving a legal or potentially legal matter.

The only thing they actively pursue online is copyright infringement and they are equally as nasty with believers as they are with unbelievers/opposers.

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

Fatfreak: The only potential fallacy I see in your post is that Legal would immediate stop illegal activity. They would support it if they felt they could somehow justify it under "freedom of religion". Watchtower Legal will feel it is above the law if they are convinced that Jehovah's way is more important than any law of mere men.

That said, I do not believe for one minute any story about Watchtower hackers etc. The Society will likely act on reports from elders who do 'monitor other users' activities but only after cautioning such ones about the dangers of continuing their activity online. Brooklyn would not assign people to hack or monitor Facebook. In cases where they are involved or potentially involved with an individual, they will look at that person's online activity just like any lawyer would.

The last thing I would mention in regards your post is that they could still disfellowship the person who is a whistleblower, even if never announced. I was never officially disfellowshipped but am treated as such. So they might not publicly go after someone but the gossip/rumour mill is very strong among 'the faithful.'

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

Ablebodied: Nope I was far gone by that point. I consider Quotes to be a great man and good friend tho!

Present Truth - Yes I know him very well .. or did. He used to post here regularly under his name. I have no idea if he still reads the board. Amazing scholar and big-hearted man! Screwed by the WTBS and left as an older man to scrounge out an existance for himself.

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

Paladin: the closest I heard to that while at Bethel was during the discussions circa 1995 regarding the generation change. I have never heard that exact quote but the GB were faced with the realization that many of what has been said, dictated may need to be reviewed and updated.

"How do we keep people in the 'Truth' if we change so much" was a quote from Dan Sydlik before he passed away. He still believed the JW's had the best form of Truth even if they had so much wrong.

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

Hey CBD SMOOOCH

Satanus - bethelites prefer pioneer sister day workers... hair colour doesn't matter. to quote one honest Bethelite "Tony" suring the noon prayer one day, "and thank you Jehovah for the beautiful day workers... ummm beautiful in their hearts and love for you ... ummm and thanks for the food....." LOL

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Verifiable Former Bethelite Willing to Answer questions

by Uzzah in

jw
friends

i am a former active poster here, former elder, former bethelite and pretty much known by people on the xjw boards since the mid 90's.

gawd that makes me sound old.. i notice that a great deal of uproar is being made by allegations of a hide in the closet alleged bethelite.

to counter the damage caused by this claim, i am happy to address any questions people may have about bethel, protocol, etc.. i was at the canada branch for 11 years, worked in multiple areas including the legal department, service desk and writing dept.

Uzzah

Reader: There was a sense of realization that as far as adults go, they may have a case if there is evidence that the adult consciously made the decision. As far as minors go, they know they can't win and do go through the motions. the grey area is those in the mid-teens.

The aspect of mature minors is still being determined by each Province and the SCC. So cases like Bethany Hughes will continue to be pursued agressively as will any doctor disobeying a directive of an adult patient that signs off on all liability against the hospital and doctors.

Small children, they will kick up a fuss to impress the flock but that's about it