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  Family gathering before disfellowshiping

  by Mattieu in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you were/are in the sydenham (melbourne/victoria) congo you may be very familiar with this a few years back.

  a prominent elder who likes the sound of his own voice (hint, his initials are william saad) yes of quite a well connected family, was on a judicial committee who was disfellowshiping one of his own male relatives for repeated marijuana usage.. this story by the way shows how corrupt the whole system is.

  as williams family (elders and c/o) had covered up the previous few sorrid outcomes of his drug usage, they couldn't contain the last public viewing of his drug dependency, witnessed by many witnesses ironically... so they held a jc to disfellowship him.

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  joe134cd

  Btw what is Fuard up to these days. Any one know. William if you are reading this pass on my regards.
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  Family gathering before disfellowshiping

  by Mattieu in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you were/are in the sydenham (melbourne/victoria) congo you may be very familiar with this a few years back.

  a prominent elder who likes the sound of his own voice (hint, his initials are william saad) yes of quite a well connected family, was on a judicial committee who was disfellowshiping one of his own male relatives for repeated marijuana usage.. this story by the way shows how corrupt the whole system is.

  as williams family (elders and c/o) had covered up the previous few sorrid outcomes of his drug usage, they couldn't contain the last public viewing of his drug dependency, witnessed by many witnesses ironically... so they held a jc to disfellowship him.

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  joe134cd

  I knew Fuard Saad from Sydney. I found him to be kind, hospitable, and just an all round pleasant good guy. Who treated his family well. My how things can change from one relative to another, as I'm guessing he would be related to this William. It really dosnt surprise me what you are saying about a Farwell DF party having known Fuard and my brief encounters with the Lebanese community.
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  "Jehovah clearly answered my prayer!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the fade is progressing well.... however, it has been noticed by the 'hounders', who i know will be "following up" with us soon i'm sure.. so i have thought of a way of shutting down the questions etc.... if they ask about things like meeting attendance and field activity, i am going to say something like:.

  "oh, thanks for your interest and concern brothers.

  this means a lot.

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  joe134cd

  Stuckinarut. If you keep your mouth shut. They won't even bother visiting you.
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  "Jehovah clearly answered my prayer!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the fade is progressing well.... however, it has been noticed by the 'hounders', who i know will be "following up" with us soon i'm sure.. so i have thought of a way of shutting down the questions etc.... if they ask about things like meeting attendance and field activity, i am going to say something like:.

  "oh, thanks for your interest and concern brothers.

  this means a lot.

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  joe134cd

  I think you may be surprised. I walked out of the Hall nearly 2 years ago. Up until that point I had been active. Had not one elders visit and only 3 other people bothered to call on me. 2 of those 3 only called so they could fill in F/S time. I guess you can call me lucky.
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  Seriously condsidering disasscoiating

  by Ashley L. in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am seriously considering disassociating myself.

  i want to do this because i no longer consider myself one of jehovah's witnesses.

  i no longer consider jehovah as my god and i am in a new religion now.

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  I kind of think to myself if you don't have to rock the boat then dont.
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  There's a pattern emerging

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the congregation that i am associated with pledged a monthly amount for the construction of a new assembly hall.

  after it was built, that was where we went for several years, even though it was the farthest-away place we had ever had for our circuit assemblies.. after a few years, lo and behold, our congregation is assigned to a new circuit where (surprise!

  ) a new assembly hall is in the early stages of construction.

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  Be thankful that they used the money to build the assembly hall in the first place. There have been cases (one was in Mexico) where the all clear was given for an assembly hall. Then some years later after donating tirelessly, the local elders got suspicious and questioned the GB about their intentions to build. The reply they got was thanks for the donations but we are not proceeding with it any more and there you have it. I thought it was pretty ballsy of the elders to have sent that letter in the 1st place.
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  Petition signatures for financial transparency in Spain Branch

  by JHK in

  1. watchtower
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  petition signatures for financial transparency in spain branch.

  we want an external audit annually.

  we want to know:* how much money is raised annually nationwide.

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  joe134cd

  Herman no es passando. Hope that's correct for it isn't happening.
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  What if we could bring down the WBTS?

  by derangedjdub in

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  what would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?

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  Yes I agree that they have still got enough money to out live me. I believe if it is to survive it's focus has to be more internal e.g retaining it's youth and taking better care of its existing members. There is a lot they could do for its youth in the way of youth programs where the not only learn about God but it's also a fun place to be. It just amazes me really at an organisation that would much rather take abuse knocking on doors, and yet will do relatively nothing to retain it's current membership.
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  What if we could bring down the WBTS?

  by derangedjdub in

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  what would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?

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  joe134cd

  Just to add to my above post. Mormons are also experiencing the same problems and issues that the Wt now faces.
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  What if we could bring down the WBTS?

  by derangedjdub in

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  what would be your plan or ideal reason the walls came crashing down?

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  I don't think so much of a crash but more of just a slow decline. I remember at assemblies that it was noticeable that there was an absence of 18-30 year old. Most of the ones I grew up with are now gone. The converts that are coming in I believe are not to the standard to take it to the next generation. The elderly and infirm section at the assemblies was growing by a few rows each year and very soon these ones will start dying. Even I must admit the older generation JW I knew in my youth are either gone or just to old to care. Then you have got the free flow of information which is certainly having its effect in 1st world countries. True the organisation is still growing in developing countries but the question is, can this be sustained and is it affordable in the long term. I think there are clear signs that money is now becoming an issue. I've heard it said that apostasy will not be the end of Wt but apathy from with in will. Yes it is rotting from the inside.