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  Are people really happy at Bethel?

  by The Searcher in

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  if they are this happy, why do they keep taking down this video?

  :).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evulyocziz8&feature=youtu.be.

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  joe134cd

  Make no mistake. There is no way this video could of been made and put on the net with out the magnificent 7 at least having known about it and giving it the all clear. There is little doubt of this in my mind. Now if there is a negative reaction to this video by the R&F and because the GB cannot be directly implicated in giving it the ok.  They can easily turn around declare a DMCA take down and blame the disobedient disloyal bethelite for running ahead of the chariot. Well that's what I think.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses requesting financial transparency in Spain

  by JHK in

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  two jehovah's witnesses requesting financial transparency in spain branch.

  one picture in the assembly hall and another on the bridge.. .

  http://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com.es/2015/01/transparencia-financiera-llegara-antes.html.

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  joe134cd

  I accept that many of the people who do contribute don't actually care.  I agree that most of the complaints come from those looking at the WTS with a critical eye.  

  
  

  I totally agree with this comment. When I first become aware how mother was getting ownership of the halls, I made some enquiries with an elder to see if such a thing had happened locally.  The elder reply just flawed me really.  " yeah there was something like that but I don't like to get to involved in those sorts of thing".  I thought you total F/wit have you got any idea of what you have just done when you and the other elders collectively signed on the dotted line because you didn't want to get to involved. The guy was totally oblivious. 
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  Happy at Bethel. Can't believe what I'm seeing.

  by Pubsinger in

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  2. beliefs

  apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.

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  joe134cd

  This kind of upsets me a bit, to think what I missed out on on my youth with dancing to now find out at age 40 that there was nothing wrong with it in the first place.
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  Happy at Bethel. Can't believe what I'm seeing.

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
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  apologies if this has already been posted but i am speechless.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnbmyudrwgs&x-yt-ts=1422327029&x-yt-cl=84838260#t=72.

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  joe134cd

  I reckon that this video was purposely leaked. Or was given the all clear of the GB. I believe that.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses requesting financial transparency in Spain

  by JHK in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  two jehovah's witnesses requesting financial transparency in spain branch.

  one picture in the assembly hall and another on the bridge.. .

  http://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com.es/2015/01/transparencia-financiera-llegara-antes.html.

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  joe134cd

  It ain't going to happen.
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

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  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  joe134cd

  Joking= the new form of worship will be the building of flag polls to hang the national flag on lol.

  Juan= I can see what you are saying.  In this country they built some large impressive halls,  in some real dead end towns, that clearly in my opinion didn't have enough going for it to support a building of that size. One in particular I can think of has since been closed down and sold off.
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  Is Watchtowers view & practices currently split in two? Split leadership direction?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been deeply following jw "culture" the last 2 years and i am getting the impression that the leadership is currently split in two different directions.

  on one hand you get this sense of a happy, joyful and less strict religion and on the other hand there is still this strict, harsh religion of the past.

  let me explain more.. there have been a lot of video's lately that show dancing in kingdom halls, bethel dancing to the "happy" song, jw.org downplaying their beliefs and making it sound like daisies.

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  I don't think so much split. I think it's more that the old guard has now died and so has their ideas. It was the rutherfords,   Knores,  and the franzes, who where the ones that were not going to change, and there weren't the external factors around to necessitate change e.g the internet. Clearly they had to do something or it would be shut up shop.
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  joe134cd

  I remember when I first saw this. I was in such disbelief that I labeled it BS. A set up by some vindictive apostate. 

  Btw I can't see the letter very clearly.
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  What will JW.org / Watchtower be like in 15 years?

  by jw07 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over the past few days i've been reading and watching bill and melinda gates speak about their plans for a better world by 2030. they bet that due to technology and the compassion of people the world should improve more in the next 15 years than it has in all of history.

  specifically lower child mortality rate, eradication of polio and guinea worm among other diseases, improvement of standards of living, greater access to education etc.. i'm a realist, so i'm not looking for miracles, but i believe most of these things are possible given the level of success they have reaped in other endeavors, and naturally emerging tech being used to make some of these projections possible.. you can see that the world is actually improving in many areas if you seek out the good news stories and statistics and look beyond the watchtower friendly fear porn about terrorism, and potential dangers from culturally diverse nations around the globe.

  for instance 2014 had the lowest fatal airline accident rate in history despite the hyping of the ill fated malaysian airlines crashes.

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  joe134cd

  Although I can't see it happening I believe watchtower needs to fix it's internal problems. This going around pissing people off with WT magazines is just a waste of time. I look at some of these other churches and see the Hugh focus on its youth, and they are also prepared to put their money where there mouth are by setting up youth programs and counciling etc. Wt tower chooses the cheaper option of disfellowshipping  them when the problem spins out of control.
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  New JW video, song and dance

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the current jws do not cease to amaze.

  here's their latest video on youtube and straight from bethel.. there is a lot of work involved in this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwou6e5vwbo .

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  joe134cd

  OMG Do I even recognize this religion. 10 years ago this would of been been showing disrespect for pure worship.