Posts by villagegirl

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watchtowers army assault on our vulnerable elderly in nursing homes

by friendaroonie in

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its been a long time since i have been this enraged at the evilness and shameless exploitation by the jws.

i just got back from the meeting (dont ask) and sat through the km article laying out plans to mass convert nursing homes all over the world.

i am not going to labor the obvious ethical travesty of this plan but i will say that it constitutes a major public health risk.

villagegirl

I just got back from the meeting (dont ask) and sat through the km article laying out plans to mass convert nursing homes all over the world.

Don't underestimate old people.

So visiting the elderly only just occured to them?

And they assume these old people have no religious opinions ?

Or that Nursing homes will allow some mass invasion

of Watchtower peddlers in the building ?

I know this is the wrong site to go on to find people who want to leave their homes or lift a finger over anything but we need to organize, alert thepress contact our congressmen..

Whoa , back up , we never leave our homes ? Excuse me ?

JW's are the ones who never go out and help people, as in charity work?

Feeding the hungry ? Volunteering at food banks and soup kitchens?

Community organizations ? See any JW's involved ?

Do see any JW Thrift Shops? Sports for kids ? Summer Camps?

Working at community centers as volunteers?

I have done all that, have you ? I bet lots here are into

all kinds of community activities and events that help people.

And many here are living busy involved lives.

And since when do you have a "congressman"

JW's do not even vote.

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

Pistoff - Maybe I was confused by the phrase "shut the hell up " and "nagging"

and "we can judge for ourselves" and "diatribe" and "the shine on your halo"

I mistook that for hostility, and here we are best buds all the while.

I am so pleased to meet you. BluPill has already stated he has no

intention of naming names or giving any clear description of the

records and events he witnessed. I was hoping that those who

actually interviewed pedophiles in JC meetings might come out

of the woodwork if they knew that they had a chance of protecting

themselves with immunity. These Elders know where the bodies

are buried, so to speak. Hopefully, 'so to speak'. Possibly literally.

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

SILENCE IS CONSENT So no, I will not shut up about the Watchtower's

written instructions, in the Elders Handbook, telling Elders to supress evidence

of sexual abuse against children. Individual Elders posting here who are able

to now step forward, can offer testimony and can be protected by immunity laws.

Those who fail to do so will be exposed as complicit as more and more victims

have their day in court for crimes which time cannot erase, and on which there

is no statute of limitation. Candice Conti successfully sued the WT for $25 million.

That was 20 years after she was sexually abused by a, 'known to the Elders'

pedophile Elders protected from exposure. Listen carefully David Hader if you

are lurking and Barron Erik Spafford, Richard Reid and Kathy Reid ;

licensed day care provider, and all who know of pedophiles

and never reported them to the police. The WT is being held responsible

by the courts, the Elders who failed to come forward will also be

held responsible. And pistoff - No one is allowed to "judge for themsleves"

what is and isn't against the law. Thats why there are written codes,

courts, and the Rule of Law that is above you and the Watchtower

and any little "Handbook" written by the Governing Body

of Jehovah's Witnesses. You do not get to say what the law is and neither

does the WT. You do not get to decide what laws to obey and what laws to ignore.

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

In the United States a prosecutor can grant immunity to a witness in

exchange for testimony or production of other evidence.

In the United States there two kinds of immunity; transactional immunity,

known as "blanket" or "total" immunity which completely protects the

witness from future prosecution related to their testimony.

There is also use and derivitive use immunity which prevents the

prosecution from using the witnesses own testimony against him.

This means if a single Elder, or a group of Elders tell what they know,

they would be protected from personal prosecution, but if they do not

come forward, and they are implicated by the hundreds cases being

filed against the WT as we speak, they can be individually sued.

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True Stories from the Tower - Part 1 "From Anointed to Pedophile to Bethelite"

by BluePill2 in

before i dive into the actual write-up of this experience, let me put some things straight.. i have thought long and hard if i should write more about my experiences during the 10+ years at different branches.

during these years i worked from financial department, service department, home office and different it assignments.

as you can imagine one sees and hears and reads a lot of stuff going through different stations in different countries.

villagegirl

Pistoff - LOL your hilarious -

Turning in pedophiles requires angelic goodness?

All it requires is a little conscience and some willingness

to stand up to WT non-Biblical policy that you know

is causing suffering to small children.

Its like 'not leaving the scene of an accident' level,

social responsibility, anybody can do it, no "Halo" required.

Elders who do turn in known pedophiles would simply

be doing their civic and moral duty as people as humans.

And they would also be protecting themselves from

future lawsuits against them for supressing what they know.

Pistoff - what exactly IS it your pist-off about ?

If you see children being abused or suspect child abuse,

or in the case of Elders, have absolute proof

of child abuse through child victims and confessions,

and you allow the pedophile to walk out of the juducial hearing

and fail to report this crime, you are complicit

and an ACCESSORY under the law.

However, if your failure to report, was a result

of following "instructions" through the WT Elder's Manual

and the secret rules contained in that publication's regulations

and you were "under the influence" of the WT as your moral guide,

and then you later realize the WT is not any 'sole channel' for God,

then you wake up and realize what you did endangered others, as BluePill2 has,

then you need to take corrective action, contact Child Protective Services

and talk to someone and give them information even if it is 20 years old.

"Just following Orders" didn't work as an excuse in the Nuremberg Trials,

and it won't work for you now.

http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/nuremberg-trials

Because protecting pedophiles is a crime against humanity.

No "Halo" required to face up to this. Just balls.

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How is the org really run? What goes on behind the scenes?

by Magnum in

how is the org really run?

what goes on behind the scenes?.

i just read an older post on this site that was recently bumped (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/6600/1/don-adams-biography) the post mentioned the adams brothers don, karl, & joel and how influential they are/were at headquarters.

villagegirl

I have met men, old timers even, who are hook line and sinker

fully delusionally convinced this is "Jehovah's Organization"

They are in love with the "Society". Its probably true of all Cults.

There are sister who speak in hushed terms of the Governing Body and

like teenage Rock Star fans, they worship the ground they walk on.

If there is leadership and writers as insincere as you suspect,

they are at a different level of complete spiritual and moral bankruptcy.

This is probably why the WT produces so many agnostics and atheists.

I suspect writing for the WT is like writing a formula, Harlequin Romance,

they give you the basic plot and style and the desired outcome and away you go.

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Dating Advice needed

by KateWild in

well i joined two dating sites yesterday and i have had lots of messages.

a couple of guys want to chat to me by phone to get to know me better.

i've been asked out on two dates.

villagegirl

Kate - a criminal record check should not be out of the question.

and the sooner you meet who he hangs out with, might also be informative.

Complete strangers can be harmless - or dangerous

Depends on how your radar works for self protection.

Some women seem to have no red flags and trust too soon.

It times past we met people in community, other people around

who knew them, and introduced us, I am not saying this Internet

meet and greet can't work but please be cautious .

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I Need Help Getting My Head Straight.......

by TTATTelder in

one of the things i have been wresting with mentally is unraveling the "us vs. them" mentality that has been driven into my skull in the organization.. i am starting this thread seeking advice on how others have come to grip with this.. this is what i struggle with:.

i like the feeling/thought of being among people that live, or try to live, or at least know they ought to live by higher standards of conduct (maybe it is just what i'm used to...).

when you walk out of a convention of people dressed up, clean-cut, shaven, non-smoking, less-profanity-speaking, fairly orderly etc and see what greets you in the streets outside, it is a big contrast.. i am also still trying to understand how a religion that has conned people (so is morally wrong) could also be so well organized and have a lot of truly decent folks among their ranks.

villagegirl

How "nice" can a bunch of people be who are so eager to see mass genocide, just so that they can selfishly "live forever in paradise on earth'?! by stuckinarut

LOL That sums it up nicely stucknrt and it so absurd when

you think about the absolute disgregard and contempt

they capable of. There need to be "right" and to

win the argument, bleeds over into this forum.

Jesus said anybody who believed would be saved, and those

who didn't know him called righteous by their deeds.

The rules of the law, and rules of an oganization are like

the Pharisees putting burdens on your back.

They behave like the religious people in the parable

walking by wounded stranger, who is then helped, by the Samaritan.

These worldly people you see, do all the charitable works of feeding

and clothing the poor, taking care of widows and orphans

and all the things the WT says are "symbolic" of your "service"

to the "Governing Body" I hope there are more like you who

are sincere believers who are waking up and see through this anti-Christ WT

There is spiritual life beyond the WT my friend, and joy and hope and love.

There are solid families, devoted to their children, involved in their communities.

People working for social justice. As an elder I am sure you are aware of the

cover up and protection of pedophiles by WT written policy ? How moral is that ?

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Most faithful Christians now alive are not members of that faithful steward class. - w2012 12/15

by 00DAD in

this was brought up earlier today on blondie's thread about this article, but it is so significant i thought it warranted it's own discussion.

here in the wt study article for this week is this remarkable statement: .

most faithful christians now alive are not members of that faithful steward class.- w2012 12/15, p. 9, para.

villagegirl

"that they recreated the religious hierarchy of ancient Israel in the guise of a Christian religion. It's just that now the priestly class no longer consists of the whole anointed remnant, but only the septopope." by Apognophos

Thank you - This is such an important point to try to get across to sincere,

believers caught in the WT cult - The WT has completely obliterated and erased

the original teachings of Jesus Christ and replaced him with themselves.

The "Governing Body/ faithful slave/ sole channel" doctrine wipes out all

vestiges of Christianity in this cult, because Christ came to replace the Priesthood

with himself as sole mediator and channel and to unite us all in one body of Christ.

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John 1:1-18

by Doug Mason in

i spent a couple of hours trying to work out the poetic structure of john 1:1-18. i have made my first rough draft available as a word document so that others can amend it for themselves.

the text i used is from the niv.

it will be interesting to see the poetic structures produced by analyses of other translations.. http://www.jwstudies.com/chiasms_of_john_1_vv_1_to_18.docx.

villagegirl

Bobcat - Or may be wisdom is setting it ?

causing you to think before you speak : )