Posts by johnamos

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January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed

by Listener in

it's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.

another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.

anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.

johnamos

As I have already shown is that Jesus makes it clear that the resurrection occurs on the ‘last day’ and the WTS makes clear that the 'last day' coincides with the 1,000-year reign. But also, Paul and the WTS make clear that the resurrection occurs at the sounding of the ‘last trumpet’. So since the 1,000 year reign has not began yet (begins at Jesus’ Matt 24:30 arrival) then that means that the resurrection has not begun yet and means the ‘last trumpet has not sounded yet, which in turn means that Rev 11:15 has not been fulfilled yet because the ‘last trumpet’ is the ‘7th trumpet'.

[John 6:39 This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day.]

[7-1-98 WT p.21 par.12 - That “last day” coincides with the Thousand Year Reign of Christ. (Revelation 20:6) Imagine the excitement during that “day” when this grand event begins!]

[2-15-86 WT p.19 par.14 - It is understood that anointed Christians sleeping in death are raised at the sounding of “the last trumpet,” which takes place during the “manifestation” of Jesus Christ in Kingdom glory. (1 Corinthians 15:52)]

[1 Corinthians 15:52 in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised up incorruptible, and we shall be changed.]

[Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel blew his trumpet. And loud voices occurred in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord (JEHOVAH) and of his Christ (JESUS)”]

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January 2020 Watchtower - the anointed

by Listener in

it's very odd that the jan. 2020 watchtower was nearly 3 weeks later than normal.

another odd thing about this watchtower is that it has two articles (about the anointed) that is very similar to two articles they wrote only four years earlier.the fact that they have even reprinted two articles that are only four years old suggests that they continue to have numerous problems surrounding their teaching's of the anointed and problems with those claiming to be anointed.here are a few of the differences between both the 2016 and 2020 articles -2016 watchtower states.

anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah just like everyone else.. 2020 watchtower statesof course, anointed christians need to be taught by jehovah through the congregation just like everyone else.. four years ago, they acknowledged that it was only jehovah who were teaching the anointed but the newest watchtower now states that it is through the congregation.watchtower 2016 states there will be 144,000 ruling with jesus in heaven.

johnamos

Watchtower 07 1/1
That would indicate that the first resurrection began sometime between 1914 and 1935.

The following shows that they know the resurrection did not begin between 1914 and 1935. They know it begins on the ‘last day’ when the 1,000-year reign begins.

[John 6:39 This is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose none out of all those whom he has given me, but that I should resurrect them on the last day.]

[7-1-98 WT p.21 par.12 - That “last day” coincides with the Thousand Year Reign of Christ. (Revelation 20:6) Imagine the excitement during that “day” when this grand event begins!]

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/l/r1/lp-e?q=2+peter+3%3A8

[Revelation 20:6 Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and will rule as kings with him for the thousand years.]

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Annual Mtg Points

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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matt 28: 19 is the year text.

new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.

there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.

johnamos

quote - But how will they explain the features of this prophecy that clearly indicates that the locust plague is brought on because of the wickedness of his people? - end quote

LOL! They won't have too. Whenever speaking about it or writing about it, they will just ignore any negative mention of why the calamity will come upon them and because JW's care more about what is written in an WTS publication than what is in the Bible, they will never connect beforehand that this calamity is brought as punishment.

Look at what they do with Gog's attack. (Gog's attack and Northerner's attack one in the same) All JW's will tell you that they expect a future attack by Gog because the WTS teaches that but you will never hear them say why Jehovah will bring Gog to attack them.

The following is the way the WTS/GB spin Gog's attack.

[Restored At Last! p. 187-188 - The nations will “devise an evil plan.” They will seek to vent their long-standing rage and hatred on Jehovah’s worshippers, who will seem vulnerable, as if “living in settlements unprotected by walls, bars, or gates.” The nations will also be eager to “take much spoil and plunder” from those “who are accumulating wealth.” (Ezek. 38:10-12)… The nations may try to disrupt our way of life and stop us from carrying out our worship. To that end, perhaps they will try to interrupt the flow of spiritual food, prevent us from meeting together, break up the unity we enjoy, and stop us from zealously proclaiming God’s message.

That is how JW's perceive Gog's coming attack upon them but here is the reason why it will occur:

[Ezekiel 38:15 You will come from your place, from the remotest parts of the north,+ you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great assembly, a vast army.+ 16 Like clouds covering the land, you will come against my people Israel. In the final part of the days I will bring you against my land+]

[Ezekiel 39:23 And the nations will have to know that it was because of their error that they, the house of Israel, went into exile, on account of the fact that they behaved unfaithfully toward me, so that I concealed my face from them and gave them into the hand of their adversaries, and they kept falling, all of them, by the sword.’ 24 According to their uncleanness and according to their transgressions I did with them, and I kept concealing my face from them.’]

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Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

by smiddy3 in

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i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

johnamos

Even this Bible that replaces the YHVH with LORD is showing that the DN should be in the NT, at least when the OT is quoted.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=psalms+110%3A1&version=AKJV

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+2%3A34&version=AKJV

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Annual Mtg Points

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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friends

matt 28: 19 is the year text.

new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.

there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.

johnamos

Quote - Joel 2 now refers to the "Babylonians", the coalition of nations that will try to destroy God's people. The context of Joel chapter 2 points the time period of fulfilment to Jehovah's Day in the Great Tribulation – end quote

Not promoting Robert's site, as I don't agree with all that he believes, but on Joel I do, and I think he is spot on, and he has been saying the following for many years:

https://e-watchman.com/introduction-2-joel/

https://e-watchman.com/day-jehovah-near/

https://e-watchman.com/jehovahs-witnesses-the-locusts-of-joel/

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Annual Mtg Points

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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friends

matt 28: 19 is the year text.

new understanding on joel ch 2 who are the locusts?.

there is a new building addition to warwick in the works.

johnamos

Do they announce at that meeting that there is an new understanding of the locust or do they actually explain what that new understanding is? I would like to hear more about what it is.

And YES Jerome, the book of Joel explains very clearly that it is Jehovah that brings the locust (AKA The Northerner) against his own people. Just as he brings Gog against them. Gog's attack and the Northerner's attack are one in the same. I have been telling my wife's family for years now about the book of Joel and sending letters to the WTS/GB in regards to, so I am really interested in hearing what the new understanding is.

[Joel 2:25 And I will make compensation to YOU for the years that the locust, the creeping, unwinged locust, and the cockroach and the caterpillar have eaten, my great military force that I have sent among YOU.]

[Ezekiel 38:16 In the final part of the days it will occur, and I shall certainly bring you against my land,]

[Quote from “What the Future Holds” talk; speaking about Gog’s attack –

“What’s the point? Brothers, we should expect them to despoil us of our human rights. We should expect them to confiscate all of Jehovah’s belongings and close down and take possession of all our branches, factories, depots, kingdom halls, assembly halls, everything. Don’t make any mistake about it. We are all in this together. We have a common enemy.”]

[Joel 1:10 The field has been despoiled, the ground has gone to mourning; for the grain has been despoiled, the new wine has been dried up, the oil has faded away. 11 Farmers have felt shame; vinedressers have howled, …the harvest of the field has perished.17 Dried figs have shriveled under their shovels. Storehouses have been laid desolate. Barns have been torn down, for the grain has dried up. 18 O how the domestic animal has sighed! How the droves of cattle have wandered in confusion! For there is no pasturage for them. Also, the droves of the sheep have been the ones made to bear guilt. 19 “To you, O Jehovah, I shall call; for fire itself has devoured the pasture grounds of the wilderness, and a very flame has consumed all the trees of the field. 20 The beasts of the field also keep longing for you, because the channels of water have dried up, and fire itself has devoured the pasture grounds of the wilderness.”]

[1-15-04 WT p.20 par.19 – As foretold in Ezekiel chapter 38, Satan will soon complete his role as “Gog of the land of Magog.” This will involve a worldwide attack on Jehovah’s people. It will be an all-out attempt on the part of Satan to break the integrity of God’s loyal ones. As never before, worshipers of Jehovah will need to call upon him earnestly, even crying for help.]

[Joel 1:14 Proclaim a fast; call for a solemn assembly. Gather the elders together, with all the inhabitants of the land, To the house of Jehovah your God, and cry to Jehovah for help.]

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Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

by smiddy3 in

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i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

johnamos

Transcription of the divine name as ΙΑΩ in the 1st-century BCE 4Q120

In addition to smaller text-critical variants, the manuscript displays the divine name in Greek characters, as ΙΑΩ (the trigrammaton) in Leviticus 3:12 (frg. 6) and 4:27 (frg. 20), instead of later practice of replacing it with κύριος ("Lord"). Skehan suggests that this is more original than Kurios.[3] Emmanuel Tov claims the use of Greek trigrammaton as proof that the "papyrus represents an early version of the Greek scripture..." antedating the text of the main manuscripts of Septuagint LXX.[4] The Codex Marchalianus is the only other extant manuscript of the Septaugint that uses ΙΑΩ to transcribe the tetragrammaton.[5]

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Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

by smiddy3 in

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friends

i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

johnamos

In OT at Numbers 11:28 the YHV from the tetragrammaton are used for the name Yehoshua. In the NT at Hebrews 4:8 the name Yehoshua is there.

In the OT at Isaiah 1:1 the YH from the tetragrammaton are used for the name YshaYah. In the NT at Matthew 3:3 the name YshaYah/Isaiah is there.

In the OT at Psalm 104:35 the YH from the tetragrammaton are used for the name Yah. In that verse is says halal/'Praise Yah' which is the equivalent to the Halleluiah's you noted as being in the NT.

When the YHV is being used as prefix we see Yeho. When the YH from the tetragrammaton is being used alone we see Yah. And when the YH is being used as an suffix we see yah/iah.

Yehoshua/Isaiah

YHVH is: Yehoah

Yehoah - Yah

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Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

by smiddy3 in

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friends

i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

johnamos

quote - His name is totally absent from the New Testament. It is evident, because it is not there. - end quote

The question is, why is it not there and if it was ever there.

Here is a place in the Hebrew Scriptures the name is used and written:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+6%3A3&version=AKJV

Now the same Scripture again you can see the name that you know was used and written in the above link you now see it was removed and replaced with LORD.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+6%3A3&version=NKJV

Knowing that, can you say for certain that the DN was not written at all in the original Greek writings?

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Cite one scripture in the N.T. that chargers Christians to be witnesses of / for Jehovah.....Not one.using K.I ./ WTB&TS

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

i think the wtb&ts publication titled "the kingdom interlinear of the christian greek scriptures" speaks for itself.. the word for word translation of the greek into english.. that publication does not even contain the name or word jehovah either in hebrew letters or greek letters anywhere in the word for word texts.. their is not one scripture in the n.t.

where christians ,followers of jesus christ are instructed to be witnesses of jehovah ,however there are something like twenty scriptures that explicitly state followers of jesus christ are to be witnesses of, for, and about jesus...

johnamos

quote - That is what we do here john! We show Watchtower quotes as proof of Watchtower lies and deceptions. - end quote

LOL!!! I understand that but that should only be directed to those that believe and follow the WTS/GB. I am well aware of their lies and deceptions, that is why I have never become a JW. I have pointed out many of times that Ezekiel ch. 13 1-16 applies to them.

And I am well aware of JWfacts from at least 10 years ago if not longer I have been viewing it.

My comments are not in defense of JW's, they are in defense of the Bible.

BTW, all this talk about coffee and apple pie and now I will have to have it tonight. Also whenever I hear apple pie mention, I always think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFcZKgf2NUQ