Hello everyone, I have some really good news, and just can't hold it in any longer. My youngest is going off to a university in August, and he will be majoring in Business Management, and Marketing. When I see what my son is doing with his life, it makes the decision to leave the JWs, I made all those years ago, when his older brother was just starting school, all the more worth it. My sons were able to grow up to become the people they are today, and that is the freedom to be who they are. Looking back at my life in that cult, I really don't regret it either. I say this because with those experiences, my own children will know what to look for when it comes to avoiding traps like that.
Tameria2001
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My son is going off to a university this fall
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, i have some really good news, and just can't hold it in any longer.
my youngest is going off to a university in august, and he will be majoring in business management, and marketing.
when i see what my son is doing with his life, it makes the decision to leave the jws, i made all those years ago, when his older brother was just starting school, all the more worth it.
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It won’t be much longer now.
by Tameria2001 ina couple weeks back my husband got a phone call from his brother, whom he hasn’t spoken to in nearly 17 years.
well i take that back, he did speak to him at the family reunion, asking him to leave.
my husband basically told him to f off, he would leave when he’s darn good and ready, but he didn’t use the word darn.
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Yes, at that time, I had no intentions of leaving, still going to meetings, and was getting ready to go to the district convention. I was still being a good and faithful JW at that time, but that was the final straw that broke the proverbial camel's back so to speak. It was not the first time, I had problems with them, before I had figured it was just imperfect people, but that was what triggered me into wanting to learn more.
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It won’t be much longer now.
by Tameria2001 ina couple weeks back my husband got a phone call from his brother, whom he hasn’t spoken to in nearly 17 years.
well i take that back, he did speak to him at the family reunion, asking him to leave.
my husband basically told him to f off, he would leave when he’s darn good and ready, but he didn’t use the word darn.
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A couple weeks back my husband got a phone call from his brother, whom he hasn’t spoken to in nearly 17 years. Well I take that back, he did speak to him at the family reunion, asking him to leave. My husband basically told him to F off, he would leave when he’s darn good and ready, but he didn’t use the word darn. Yes I do still try to keep my language clean, well except for when I get pissed off. Anyways back to what had happened. A couple weeks ago, out of the blue, his brother called us to inform my husband that their grandmother is not doing so well, and wanted to inform him of this family information. At the moment she is back at her daughter’s home, and is under hospice care. When she does die, it won’t be any loss on our part, because this is one very hateful woman, and yes she is a JW.
A few years back, my husband had lost an aunt, whom he did really care about, and this woman too was a JW, and yes she did shun us, but he did go to her funeral. Not so much for her, but for her daughter, who has also left the JWs. They were pretty close growing up as kids, and still have some contact to this day. It’s not much, because of the distance. Since some of his aunts from our area was going, I decided not to go. My husband had the support of his aunts; these women have really filled in the gap that was left wide open from the shunning that he was experiencing from his parents. One of them is more of an adopted grandmother to our children.
My husband and I have two boys, and one of them wanted to go, while the other one wanted to stay as far away from them as possible. The one that wanted to go barely remembers going to the kingdom hall as a little boy, but there are still some things he does remember. When he did come home from that experience, he was a little shaken up. So I sat down with him and asked him what was bothering him, and he said it was that funeral talk that he heard. To him, he said that they sounded just like the freaks that believe in a zombie apocalypse, with the dead rising up and stuff. I had to apologize to him because when he was explaining it to me; I started laughing a little bit. I told him, yea, some of their beliefs do sound really strange to those who are not familiar with what they think. Anyways, I did explain to him, what they were trying to convey. After our conversation, he told me that he was glad that I left it when he was little, so he would not have to endure that crap growing up (his words).
What made me finally wake up to them, was when my son, the very one that had went to that funeral, was in the hospital when he was only five years old. When we took him to the ER, he was a very sick little boy, and at first the doctors thought he might have an appendicitis, and they were talking about surgery. When I heard that I got really scared, because I had all these thoughts running through my mind. But the doctors wanted to first make sure that they were making the correct decision, and admitted him into the hospital. So I decided to call some people. I first tried to call my mother, but her phone line was busy, and then I called an elder’s wife. At the time I thought that we were friends, and I informed her that my son was in the hospital, and that he might be going in for surgery. Her response to me, and I will never forget what she said to me, till the day I die, was this, “What do you expect me to do about it?” and then she hung up on me.
Eventually, I managed to call my mother; I had learned that my teenage sister was using the phone. You know how teenagers can be with those phones. Anyways, I told my mom that her grandson might be going in for surgery. I don’t remember what she told me, but I do know it was not encouraging.
My husband’s parents did show up a couple days later. Oh and before I forget, it was not a problem with his appendix, but he did have Gastritis. At his age, it was something the doctors did say could kill a small child or the elderly, so my son had to stay in the hospital for a week. During that whole time, no one, other than my in-laws even bothered to show up. What even made me angrier was I had learned that my mother, father, and sister had gone through our town while my son was in the hospital, and didn’t bother to stop. You might be asking why they had come through my town, and the answer was to visit my sister, who lived fairly close. My sister or her husband (my husband’s brother) never even bothered to visit us while our son was in the hospital, and didn’t even bother to call, even though they knew of our situation.
After spending the week in the hospital, the doctors told me to keep my son at home, and to allow him to recover from his ordeal. So I did this for the next month. During that whole time, no one bothered to call or stop by to check up on us. This ordeal was what finally opened up my eyes to the JW cult, and as a result I dove in head first, and started researching like a mad man. What I came across made me see red. When I see red, I get really pissed off, and there isn’t any stopping me. I’m only saying this, because this was why I DO NOT want to EVER be around those people or their cult ever again.
Now back to my husband’s grandmother. He says he wants to go to her funeral, and it will be a JW funeral. Not because she was his grandmother, but because of his aunt, who not a JW, and never has been. She almost became one, but stopped because she saw how we were being treated when we left. I told him that I would go with him, to give him support, of not dealing with those jerks by himself. But I do want to do something that would put the fear of God (or the devil) in those people’s hearts and mind, and doing so without saying a single word. Any ideas on how or what I can do, and still be the sweet little self that I am? It’s not really the JWs as a whole, but a certain someone, my JW sister, that I would LOVE to get at. That woman was a real thorn in my side when I was a JW, and yes she is still talking trash about me. I hear stuff though the grape vine so to speak.
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Jesus Knows the Day & Hour Now?
by KillerJones ini was skimming the july 2016 wt study article and came across a paragraph indicating that, despite scriptural evidence, the governing body indeed feels that god's son now knows the exact day and hour of armageddon.
is this 'new light'?
from the second study article, page 14, pgh 4:.
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Yes, technically, he can't know the "day or hour", because that varies depending on location at the time!
Nice try, but.....
No - that's why we have Greenwich in London and Greenwich Mean Time
DarK SpilveR
That's all folks!But back when Jesus was on the earth, there was no such thing as the Greenwich Time Zone.
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Jesus Knows the Day & Hour Now?
by KillerJones ini was skimming the july 2016 wt study article and came across a paragraph indicating that, despite scriptural evidence, the governing body indeed feels that god's son now knows the exact day and hour of armageddon.
is this 'new light'?
from the second study article, page 14, pgh 4:.
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All I have to say about that, there is no way the day or hour can be exactly said, because when you look at the time zones of earth, there are 24 different hours(is that correct), and two different days at all times, or close to two different days going on at the same time, all depending on where you are at on this earth. I hope that made sense. At least that was how I always thought about that day and hour business.
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For me it's been a mix blessing, but I remember reading somewhere that shunning is the worst thing one person can do to another psychologically. In my case, my husband left the JWs at the same time as I did, he wanted to leave it sooner, but waited till I was ready. But to this day neither his nor my parents or part of our siblings have any thing to do with us, but other relatives (and one of my sisters left it as well) have filled in that gap.
I remember when I was a JW, I knew a woman who's daughter was disfellowship, and she came to me for advise. In her daughter's case, she wanted to leave her abusive husband, so she went the route of cheating on him to get her divorce. She asked me what I would do if it was me, and I told her this from how I feel about things personally. I told her, if you want your daughter back, don't shun her. By showing her you care about her, and still love her, she would want to return. She took my advise, and it did make her son very angry with her about this, but her daughter did return. And later I found out it was because her mom did not cut off all contact with her.
Yes I remember them saying that shunning is merciful, so that they see the errors of their ways and want to return to the fold. But for me it's the total opposite, shunning shows the victim that those who are doing that DO NOT care about them, or their well being. In my case, those who are shunning me, and this is why I say it's a mix blessing is because all those people who are shunning me, are very toxic people, who made both my husband and myself very miserable. They are the reason why my husband started up the nasty habit of smoking. But that part is a whole story for another time.
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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problemaddict 2, None of the other relatives (including the host) had no idea that this was even brought up by this one relative. With her, I'm not quite sure what to even say to her, because at the moment she's upset with us for something that was completely out of our control. She'll get over it though, because she and her nephew (my husband) is very close. They have more of a brother/sister relationship, because they are so close in age, and they grew up together. I'm going to let him handle it, because he will know the right things to say to her, and he will when he's ready.
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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Heartafire, a few years before my husband and I left that cult, it was his brother who came over to our home, and informed us that we and our children would die at Armageddon. Now mind you, I was still going to the meetings, and going out in service (when I could find the time), and hadn't even thought about leaving. His wife, my own sister, the one I mentioned that was at the family reunion, she would always make stuff up about my family and I, just to make herself look good with our parents. In case it's a little confusing, but my husband's brother is married to my sister. When we left that cult, those were the type of people we left behind. It's been almost 16 years since I last saw those people, 16 years too soon in my book. I can only picture the outrageous stories she is going to spread after today.
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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I just wanted to say thank you for all your replies. My family and I did attend the family reunion, and as the JW relatives had planned, showed up late, assuming that we would be gone by the time they arrived. One of them pulled my husband aside as asked for us to leave. My husband's reply to him was rolling his eyes, and said, "Yea, what ever. We'll leave when were good and ready, and not when you say so." There was an F bomb placed in there as well.
Anyways I did see the woman who use to be my biological sister there as well. But I made sure that I was totally ignoring her, I know that this would burn her to no end, because she was the one who is suppose to do the shunning. There was no love loss in the beginning, because I absolutely can not stand the site of her, even when back when I was still a JW.
The family reunion went off really well, and I got to see family members that I hadn't seen in years. I'm thinking that the relative that originally asked us to leave early in a message was only doing that, so to convince the JW relatives that we would not be there by the time they arrived. But it still ticked me off, her even bringing this up, but that's under the bridge now.
As far as doing any anti witnessing, I never had to do this, because most of the family (who are not JWs) have already seen first hand the ugly side to those people. Their actions towards us, back when we first left, acatually prevented several relatives from evening joining that cult. I did think it was pretty funny how my husband handled his brother though. He a very blunt man, and he doesn't care who he says it to, well except for me, because he doesn't want like seeing my red hair flair towards him. lol
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What should I do?
by Tameria2001 inhello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
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Hello everyone, it's been quite a while since I was last on this forum. Originally I was under a different user name, but lost all that information when I moved to a different state. Anyways, I had left the JWs back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life. I don't know if they still use this term, but back then my husband and I sent in our dissociation letters. At the time I had done quite a bit of research to make sure I was making the right decision, after all quite a few of both my husband's and myself, our relatives are JWs. As a result of our decision, our children were able to grow up to be true to who they really are. They are both two well adjusted young men who are very happy with their lives, who haven't had to deal with the heartache of being cut off from their loved ones. They were quite young when we came to this decision. Those relatives are nothing but strangers to them.
Anyways, most of the time I'm perfectly fine, but there are times such as today, I feel that those PEOPLE love poking at wounds that have long since closed. At the moment it feels more like they are poking a bear with a stick, and me being the bear, a very grumpy bear, one that is just waking up from it's hibernation. Not to go into too much detail, but what is going on, we are having a family reunion. Most of those attending will be non-JWs, but they are jumping though hoops for the few JW relatives that are going to be there. I was informed just the day before this was to take place, that for a couple of hours of the reunion, we are allowed to be there, and then we have to leave. So the JW relatives won't throw a stink and make a big scene, like they did the last time. At the moment I'm in half a mind to not even bother, yet on the other hand I have always refused to play by their (JW) games.