pontoon, thank you for setting that straight, but it took the edge of the 75 turmoil as I remember it. what amazed me that an (later dfd) "apostate" told us this was about to happen, I always wondered why HE had that foreknowledge, may be there was an underground news network among thinkers back then too.
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1975 - A weak argument?
by Christ Alone ini posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.
i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.
was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?
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1975 - A weak argument?
by Christ Alone ini posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.
i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.
was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?
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my memory is fading, but if I remember right, about 75-76 there was this huge diversion maneuver to scrap the appointed "servant" congregation arrangement and have the local heavies haggle over the appointing of elders and their rotation. Prestige, status trumps false prophecy concerns.
any direct talking about the 1975 failure in January 76, would have been honest, but amount to an admitting of WTBSinc beeing the source of the debacle.
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Stronger Christian presence on JWN?
by Christ Alone ini've only been a member here for a short time, but it seems like there are more christians on the board lately.
for the first few months that i was on jwn, it appeared that there were very few that argued in favor of a creator and belief in the bible in particular.
there seems to be several more that have recently joined...or at least posted more regularly regarding belief.
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christ alone, but it is existence of the different level of beliefs that generates the interesting interchange. Clearly the newbies are serchers and learners with pent-up doubts and conclusions on their own that were arrived at in isolation. These can be valuable when shared now and then compared what has been going on here for years. new stimulus can not be bad, an influx of believers at this stage with the WTBS tremors should be welcomed.
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Leadership in a collective is BALONEY
by Terry inlaw under moses freed nobody from anything except..freedom from a sense of guilt.. that sense of guilt was put into them deliberately.. otherwise, they wouldn't bring animals to the priests.
guilt and atonement was a get rich quick scheme by priests.. .
under hitler, the rule of law could kill people for being born into an ethnic group.
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wow! ------thats why Jesus warned (as reported) against leaders , benefactors rising up among HIS followers.
so, did he by extension warn against forming a collective? Christians in permanent dispersion?
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Freddy Franz followed in this fellow's footsteps (A Study in HUBRIS)
by Terry inyour name is ussher....james ussher and you are the archbishop of all of ireland.
it is the 1600's and you are ocd when it comes to studying.
all things scholarly---especially speculative ideas!!.
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re newton: yes, but he had the good sense to keep his religious studies to himself unlike usher, franz etal. Newton, had he lived, would be on this site for sure. Newton the apostate, debunking the trinity. his posting name: iovah magnus or something like that. correct on beaberen.com. thank you.
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1975 - A weak argument?
by Christ Alone ini posted this on an older thread, but i wanted to get an honest opinion about this from all of you.
i think taking the 1975 approach with a jw is...weak.
was it wrong (and false prophetic) of them?
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for what its worth, the 75 thing in 68-9 made jws make life-altering decisions. in our small bookstudy, in a well to do area, one brother gave up a huge service business to build a house at the end of the world and "pioneer" with all the comfort money could buy, his neighbour there, another 75-bitten jw, had moved too --as close you can get to the artic circle on a road--, was an IBM technichian "THIMK" that finagled a way to work via phone to be where (the need is great)*. We took 75 serious too, figured, in those in those six years left, we could move, and with cash build (rather than rent) a modest home in our original special pioneer territory assignment, and beat the Isaiah 65 prophecy arrival by 6 years. that way we got dragged into the real estate presence kicking and screaming. It was really unreal how rational beeings would all be focused on a sham that way. Knowing our sincerity even wealthy people that employed witnesses asked serious questions. nobody belittled us. It was the third time in my life that I was in the midth of mass / mob hysteria. never again.
*whos' need?
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Let me get this straight about the FDS latest thinking
by wha happened? inso the fds does not include the apostles.
what part of the gospels aren't food at the proper time?
or am i just mixed up on who the fds are..
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the new light shows there intra-mural thinking, their total rejection of the scriptures on that one. there was no central authority in the first century! rev. 2. 7 AUTONOMOS local congregations, No CO,DO, Branch, Zone, GB. instead:elders answering dirctly to Christ. . John did not dream that one up. So, they really believe that they are at the top since 1919.because its true. for those within those walls. remember the berlin wall ? the long fence? when something like that breaks everyone is on his own hedge(d) fund. its not funny/\.
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My DEATH as an Intellectual
by Terry ini had been a straight a student.
i had a prodigious memory for facts, dates, quotes.
i once recited the entire rime of the ancient mariner in english class.
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terry put all your essays in one volume.
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Can someone tell me what this site is about? (Any French speaker please)
by FingersCrossed inhttp://www.nouvellevie.com/.
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its about Math 23:33
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Can someone tell me what this site is about? (Any French speaker please)
by FingersCrossed inhttp://www.nouvellevie.com/.
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FC it must be your family.