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  AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

  by WatchTower87 in

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  - 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

  - new bible.

  - new nwt (revision).

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  TheOldHippie

  ...... and it would do away with one (or, THE) MAJOR stumbling block!
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  AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
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  - 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

  - new bible.

  - new nwt (revision).

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  TheOldHippie

  First of all, the HQ is NOT called the Branch - these are tro separate things, the Branch is the center of the US activity, the HQ is the center of the worldwide activity. Two separate entities.

  One very wise comment was made, "if there is a major doctrinal shift rolled out at the annual meeting, it will be something that they've already begun to downplay or at least haven't mentioned in awhile"

  If you look at the organization brochure issued a couple of years ago, you will notice when it discusses the servant / gb, that it says more or less nothing, it does not say that it represents the remnant - and that is because the change to the gb being the servant was already on its way, and it would be strange to suddenly change the teaching a few months after a brochure had been issued. Likewise now, you cannot change 1914 a month after it has been stated as the start of the last days at a wt study. Look for something that has not been mentioned for a while, that has been downplayed, that has been a bit watery lately, and that is where a possible change will come.

  Was I the only one that noticed that in the article on babel and the origin of languages, a stone tablet with Babylonian writing was labelled as dating from around year 3,000 BC? But year 3,000 - that is 500 years before the flood......................
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  If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...

  by slimboyfat in

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  the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.

  if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?

  they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.

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  TheOldHippie

  ONE change would matter, at least to me, and that is the ONLY only that REALLY matters - that the Noachian flood was global ...............

  To little time, man, too little time for all them empires and trade routes and cities to come into existence, too little time.

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  Searcher, as for the Kingdom Interlinear - I do not have it at hand - but the Greek word-for-word column and the translated column are based on two different manuscripts, look it up in the foreword. Hence differences.
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  WTS admits (indirectly) decreasing in U.S. publisher ratio to population

  by Gayle in

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  service year reports:.

  2010 - 1/259.

  so, the wts is not keeping up with the u.s. population (and they know it), though it rants about increasing pubs., etc..

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  TheOldHippie

  Memorial attendance has always fluctuated depending on what day of the week it is celebrated. The cousins ain't as faithful as the brothers.
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  Sun Valley Jehovah’s Witness church usher pleads no contest to sex acts with underage boys

  by truthseekeriam in

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  2. child-abuse

  sun valley jehovahs witness church usher pleads no contest to sex acts with underage boysby city news service.

  posted: 09/12/13, 4:25 pm pdt |.

  van nuys >> a man who was an usher at a kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses in sun valley pleaded no contest thursday to sex-related counts involving three boys he met there.. marcelo lozano, 34, of sun valley, pleaded no contest to two counts of continuous sexual abuse and one count of oral copulation of a person under 14.. he is facing 30 years in state prison when he is sentenced oct. 8 by van nuys superior court judge leslie dunn.. lozano is also expected to be ordered to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life following his release from prison.. .

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  TheOldHippie

  Please forgive my ignorance - but what is an "usher"?
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  Apostate article in new December 15, 2013 Watchtower lead article major contradiction of featured scripture 2 Thess. 2:1,2

  by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

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  the below is the title and theme scripture of the lead article in the latest watchtower about apostates.

  notice that the watchtower is unknowingly labeling themselves as an apostate, as the man of lawlessness, as we briefly review the context of its own theme scripture.. .

  avoid being quickly shaken from your reason!.

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  TheOldHippie

  A quick check comparing translations and commentaries, sums it up in this commentary: day of Christ—The oldest manuscripts read, "day of the Lord."

  So then you are back to the question, who is the "Lord" in this verse?
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  AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
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  - 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

  - new bible.

  - new nwt (revision).

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  TheOldHippie

  A couple of quiet years, is my guess, untill something "new" comes along after that.
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  Memorial attendance in the USA a DROP of 59,404 from two years ago

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  according to the september 2013 kingdom ministry, the memorial attendance in the usa this year was 2,504,114. this is a drop of 59,404 from two years ago!

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  TheOldHippie

  Easter, my friends. The number always fluctuates according to what day in Easter it is held. If on one of the public holidays, then there are "cousins" (as apposed to "brothers and sisters"), studies etc. who are off on holiday, whereas if it is held in the beginning of the week for example, people are "in town" and hence the attendance is higher.
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  Annual Meeting open to anyone in Australia?

  by RayPublisher in

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  i just saw this quote on a forum for uber jwdubbs:.

  "in australia branch territory everyone can come, public included, however not going publicly advising it, plus no tickets are going to be used".

  i wonder if that's really the case?

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  TheOldHippie

  This was stated last year:

  “What about next year?” asked Brother Morris in his concluding comments. “Next year’s annual meeting, which is scheduled to be held on October 5, 2013, will be tied in to selected Assembly Halls in the United States and other English-speaking countries.”

  This program will be broadcast in English only. It will not be interpreted into other languages.

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  So in case Australia is still an English-speaking country, the answer is yes.
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  Oklahoma-executes Jehovahs Witness for rape & murder

  by Stealth in

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  at least he now has the resurection hope.

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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2417902/anthony-rozelle-banks-oklahoma-executes-jehovahs-witness-rape-murder.html.

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  TheOldHippie

  Posting a close up of a doughnut in the newspaper seems rather strange to me. Perhaps they should have posted a picture of a bottle of water as well?

  Strange judicial system that lets a guy stay 34 years in death row .................